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[SPOILERS] Ceiliazul's First Dance: Louis of the Ottomen
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Booyah! So are we seeing forges or Confucians?
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Both! Which one first though... i'm holding you in suspense. Here's a hint: my capital has a build plan for the next 10 turns.
Actually all my cities have build plans, and i'm excited about each of them. It's a great day to be the Sun King. somewhat related: I had a revelation yesterday after typing "Cull seems content to pile on population and warriors." Cull wants this game to be done. Ziggo will be producing a barracks-promoted axe on t50 to get over to Cull by t57. If i'm right and Cull is only building warriors, my axe may be a one-man wrecking crew. If cull decides to start massing archers, my axe will return with honor, and Cull's game will continue another 25 turns until catapults. The opportunity cost is delayed infrastructure in Ziggo, but the opportunity cost if i'm right and someone else there first is much larger. I might already be too late, Ad Hoc built an axe on ~t42. ![[Image: PBEM25.046.1.JPG]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.046.1.JPG) Among the several benefits of building the Oracle outside of the capital is that Minion spent the time building infrastructure. The library is just a placeholder, I have bigger plans for this city: ![[Image: PBEM25.046.2.JPG]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.046.2.JPG) The Pyramids! I don't even have Masonry yet, but the Pyramids are due on t56. It's not even a tight squeeze, I scheduled an engineer part of the time, even though another grass mine will be available. Also, I can whip up to 4 pop if needed. A major part of the success of this play is that I'll land math on t53. Each forest chop will be worth 35 hammers! In turn, a major part of that tech success is that my 'undocumented alien' in Cull's land keeps sending money home! ![[Image: PBEM25.046.3.JPG]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.046.3.JPG) The plan to put Cull out of his misery is moving forward: ![[Image: PBEM25.046.4.JPG]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.046.4.JPG) Wow look at that score! This is becoming a diplomatic problem. Fortunately, I will be whipping six pop in the next 3 turns, which will keep my score suppressed. My demos also look good, considering the GNP is at 50% science, an efficient sweet spot this turn: ![[Image: PBEM25.046.5.JPG]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.046.5.JPG)
Ceiliazul Wrote:Wow look at that score! Actually, this might be a good time to eat a few rounding errors (at most, 8 per turn) and research around break-even for now. Suppressing GNP might help the diplomatic situation. Can we get a general overview, both empire-wide and diplomatically? Also, in best ded-lurker fashion: What's the expansion plan, Stan? I know it's crippling maintenance-wise, but to stop expanding on this cramping map would be lethal, too. The 'mids will take care of your research once to crash your economy.
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I write RPG adventures, and blog about it, check it out. Commodore Wrote:Actually, this might be a good time to eat a few rounding errors (at most, 8 per turn) and research around break-even for now. Suppressing GNP might help the diplomatic situation. Can we get a general overview, both empire-wide and diplomatically? I agree completely about breakeven research, and in fact I'm at 50% right now. There's a lucky sweet spot there at the moment, but next turn I do intend to suck up some rounding errors. Research plan: Masonry -> hunting -> Math 50% on masonry is exactly the plan, but I can safely go max research after that due to fewer pre-reqs Diplo: Catwalk: He and I have a VERY stable border, and now we're each benefiting +4gpt from trade routes. Diplo is good, although Catwalk is really pushing for a border agreement. I hate border agreements. Pegasus: He and I haven't touched borders yet, but we have discussed the fact that both our next cities will go that direction. We're good friends, but I see Pegasus being the long-term rival. At the moment, he's got a higher GNP than any of us, and he'll be highest score here in a couple turns. Ad Hoc: I haven't dealt with too much except in the war with Cull. It appears that Ad Hoc sent his first city 5 tiles away from his capital and straight toward Catwalk! His other cities are similarly away from me. We need to get a reason to work together and start doing so. Expansion: There are two settlers due on the turn Pyramids finish. They will move during the representation revolt and both settle on t58. One city goes toward Pegasus as discussed with him, the other settler will reflect a macro strategy choice I still need to make:
However, Biohazard is not a city that should be on the edge of my empire, and at the moment I think I can get a full ring of cities around Bio. That would need to happen immediately after Pyramids though, and would likely require me to negotiate away rights to the other 2 centers. This is actually the plan I'm favoring at the moment.
No turn tonight, Cull's email had no attachment. We were just getting a good pace going too. :-(
novice Wrote:<IIRC> the rounding happens after aggregating the city beakers, so you lose at most 1bpt? T-Hawk/Seven? It seems like the value of binary research is not only rounding, it allows better efficiency from multipliers that are built midway through the save/spend cycle. Still the gained efficiency is not worth friction with your neighbors. Pegasus has the leading gnp, so hopefully the Eye of Pile-on will move toward him soon.
With the downtime today, I did a study in tech paths from some other prosperous teams:
RL7 from PBEM19: NS7 from PBEM23 (SPOILERS FOR ACTIVE GAME) Spulla from RBPB2 Krill from RBPB3 Things I learned:
Questions generated:
I intended a t50 demo roundup, but the slow turn pace means it arrived early.
![[Image: PBEM25.047.d.jpg]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.047.d.jpg) Cull is doomed of course. He doomed himself with his start, Ad Hoc and I doomed him when our units entered his borders, and he is continuing to doom himself by sitting in his cities. Rival best pop, but rival worst crop, he's working strictly junk tiles so his pop can't help him. He appears to want this game over, and he'll get his wish soon enough. Ad Hoc is the one among us who looks most like the AI. Lots of soldiers waiting around to get outdated. Along with his rival worst GNP, he is almost worst crop yield. He rushed out to 4 cities, and crashed hard. Researched pottery on t40, and with his gnp writing will take forever. Without specialists, Ad Hoc's PHI team is not looking good. Catwalk is running the Roman farmer's gambit! He and I are equal in city count, and tiles worked. He is becoming a monk, with an early monastary and soon Stonehenge... Special note: His Holy city and my Oracle city are the two best culture pumps on the board, and they are touching 2nd ring borders! He is not using binary research at all, which makes his research easy to track. He got pottery on t39 and *should* have come up with writing by now. He sent a diplo that explains it Catwalk Wrote:Btw I switched to Writing, there was no real need to go for Iron Working early Pegasus is the silent monster of the group. His pop chart is a perfect series of bunny hops: he's whipping brilliantly. His score and pop are depressed by this, but his mfg is insane. He's the tech leader, completing writing on t40, and a library on t44. Just look at the GNP spike below, he's already running specialists! However, Peg has been slow to expand, the last one running only 3 cities. (Cull has 2, but meh.) ![[Image: PBEM25.047.g2.jpg]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.047.g2.jpg) It bears repeating: Ad Hoc is in serious trouble. Cull's 2 cities just working water tiles and FP have a higher GNP than the Arabians. Ad Hoc's GNP upswing accompanied a complete collapse of his MFG. He obviously knows he's falling behind. Luckily for him, his rival best army will allow him to pull this off. Pegasus: wow! He's obviously working specialists, I suspect he finished a second library, but not sure. Pegasus is the only one keeping up with me so far. He must be most of the way through a classical tech, because whatever that giant gnp leap poured beakers into, he still hasn't landed the tech! ![[Image: PBEM25.047.s.jpg]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.047.s.jpg) Score is a problem. My huge leap is a combination of things:
This problem will be solved in the next 3 turns. I'll be whipping a total of 6 pop, and the long haul to Mathematics will keep my score down. During the Pyramids build, I'll be building a couple settlers to crash my GNP too. (yay!) Diplo: Catwalk needs to be convinced that Pegasus is stronger than he looks. Right now I look like the dogpile candidate, and I'm looking forward to being passed in score as others' land points come in, and I build pyramids. Upcoming techs:
How much trouble is Ad Hoc in? A Lot!
T47 demos show his gnp right around 30. GNP = culture + SpyPoints + sliders 4 CRE cities + palace + Holy culture = 15 culture per turn Spy Points = 4 What's left for his sliders is 30 - 15 - 4 = 11 gold Catwalk told me where 3 of his cities are, so his maintenance is ~18. Ad Hoc is running negative income at 0% gold!  That might explain the complete collapse of Arabian industry: ![[Image: PBEM25.047.m.jpg]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42880948/PBEM25.047.m.jpg)
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