[PB79] Giraflorens & Magic Science -- "Fear+Curiosity Gazpacho"

[greenline]

For traits:

EXP is always good. .

CHA. There are no luxury resources in sight. But this is a green's game, so the mapmakers will probably give everyone a few luxuries. What was it like in Pitboss 72? That would make CHA weaker. But if there really are not many luxuries, then CHA would be strong. I do not know. It is a fine option.

SPI. Good to not pick it if you do not want early religion.

Others? You could always choose good old FIN. If you are convinced to pick a civ other than Mali, then you could pick a trait that is good with that civ.

PB72 had luxuries be rather unevenly distributed. I can comment publicly on the map philosophy for this game if you would like.

[Tarkeel]

I can not use mining until I have BW. There are no unforest hills. That's why I was thinking about The Wheel. With it the worker always can do some roads.

Roads are pretty marginal value in feeding the snowball early on. It's not like BronzeWorking is a wasted tech to delay, you're probably better off taking mining and going for it early.

I don't see the Farm on the Cow (3F0H1C -> 4F0H1C) and with the pasture (-> 4F2H1C) . Am I right? in this latter I gain 2H

A pasture is slightly better, but is it worth delaying BronzeWorking by 10-15 turns?

[giraflorens]

Roads are pretty marginal value in feeding the snowball early on. It's not like BronzeWorking is a wasted tech to delay, you're probably better off taking mining and going for it early.

A pasture is slightly better, but is it worth delaying BronzeWorking by 10-15 turns?

 
Thank you.  It's late.  I already picked Agriculture+Fishing.  That appreciation of you is really interesting.  Probably I am too obsessed with the roads, and afraid of not having work for the Workers.  I was thinking in this research seq :  AH - Wheel - Mine - BW.  Migh I pospone the Wheel for after BW?

[giraflorens]

Let's talk about traits. Now the picture is:

Coldrain: Lincoln (PHI/CHA) of ??? (on Deck)
Giraflorens: ??? of Dutch (Netherlands) (op)
xist10: Wang Kong (PRO/FIN) of Carthage
Miro: Lieu-Ye (ORG/PRO) of China
ricketyclik: Shaka (EXP/AGG) of Rome

Nobody choose IND neither CREATIVE. Magic suggest FIN+EXP. I think this is a good election, there are plenty of tiles for villages and the coast can yield a good commerce at the beginning. Or might be FIN+CREATiVE, and we forget about the Monuments?

I finally picked Pacal (FIN/EXP). In the next days I will post some alternaives for the 30 first turns.

[Magic Science]

Of course ricketyclik would pick Shaka of Rome with Superdeath advising him.

And we cannot go wrong with Pacal.

[giraflorens]

Of course ricketyclik would pick Shaka of Rome with Superdeath advising him.

And we cannot go wrong with Pacal.

Hahahaha....  I beg to the Gods not being near them.  I'm already seeing Pretorians!

[Magic Science]

Would you like me to make a simulation/sandbox to help with planning?

The first question to answer is what technology to research first. Animal Husbandry or Mining?

EDIT: Yes, probably postpone The Wheel until after Bronze Working.

[giraflorens]

Yes, please.

I've being doing some calculations, but not finished yet. I like AH for revieling Horses and city planing. But then BW is very delayed. Also I was doubting btw Worker vs Boat as initial. Boat will give 2 coins!

Later on I will comemt my calculations and we can compare with yours

[Magic Science]

I will post the simulation in about 12 hours, after work.

I am in Alaska, by the way. You are in Spain, right?

[giraflorens]

Sim 1:  Mine (t8)-BW(t22)- Wheel(t28)-AH(t37)

worker(10)-boat(19)-warrior(25)-settler(28+chop+2whip)-warrior,barracks fins Pop4-worker(39)-settler(43+2whip)

Sim 2:  AH (t13)- Mine(20)-BW(t30)- Wheel(t36)
worker(10)-boat(20)-warrior(24)-settler(31)-warrior,-settler(36+chop+2whip)+worker(42) con pop3

after 1st settler we must add 1 turn for slavery, that i did not take into account.

yes I am in Spain