RBPB4 Lurker Thread

[Twinkletoes89]

Don't say we're gonna start banishing people for their in-game behavior..

You say it as if Warlord's conduct is acceptable?

[Cyneheard]

Right, there's a difference between "in-game behavior" along the lines of Athlete using Slaze's army against him in PB2: Underhanded to the extreme, and was rightfully condemned, but not something that would make me say "you shouldn't be part of this community." Cursing out your opponents is something you do in your spoiler threads.

When your only communication is profanity-laced anger over, uh, playing the game...

The problem is that there are a lot of logistical problems if we tried to do something. But if Warlord pulls this type of thing again, I'd be in favor of getting rid of him somehow.

[Gold Ergo Sum]

Novice is probably right that I should'nt comment one way or the other on WarlordDr's behavior until the players actually end up in a dispute that requires some degree of arbitration.

That said, I personally think the lack of a spoiler thread would be more of a punishable offense than any actual behavior. It isn't to condone that behavior, it is just that behaving that way has its own particular in-game consequences. Not posting a spoiler thread at all or making an attempt to engage in the communal aspects of the game in a community like this seems like a more "punishable" offense.

That said, I don't think lurkers and people not involved in the game can really interject themselves into getting one of the players thrown out. If plako or other players made the request, it would have to at least be evaluated as a possibility, but otherwise, even if lurkers are the only people who can really police this sort of thing (since who knows how long or if ever until other players learn of the behavior), I don't think it is our place to speak up.

[Amelia]

I agree as well, playing dastardly "in-game" is something at least tolerable, but Warlord's behavior wasn't to me.

[Cull]

Not making a thread shouldn't mean punishment/get kicked. Its tradition, its good, but its not mandatory last I checked.

[Amelia]

Cull:

Not making a thread i can understand, maybe you're afraid of things spoiling or you just don't know how to tell a story. But the way he cursed Plako was something i couldn't.

[Bobchillingworth]

I'm not following this game very closely, so possibly I'm missing something, but I don't really see what's so heinous that lurkers are actually seriously advocating having Warlord removed from the game. Not making a thread is sad, but it can't be a great offense as its common on RB for threads to be abandoned or very infrequently updated. Foul language and insults directed toward an opponent are unsporting, but occurs often within threads, especially when war declarations are involved. Is telling the opponent immediately via chat what you think of them really so much worse than sticking it in a thread that they'll read half a year later & which is publicly posted for anyone browsing the site?


I'm not trying to excuse Warlord's language, which is crude and childish. But trash-talk isn't exactly unheard of in online gaming, and if plako takes great offense he can inform Warlord of his objections on the battlefield.

[Gold Ergo Sum]

Not making a thread shouldn't mean punishment/get kicked. Its tradition, its good, but its not mandatory last I checked.

It probably should be mandatory. But given how many threads don't get updated, nobody is going to be thrown out for not making a thread.

But while everyone here seems to feel WarlordDr behaved badly, unless plako actually feels the need for the behavior to be addressed, I just don't see where it is the role of lurkers to seriously consider removing someone from the game for anything less than cheating etc.

[scooter]

Is telling the opponent immediately via chat what you think of them really so much worse than sticking it in a thread that they'll read half a year later & which is publicly posted for anyone browsing the site?

I think you're missing what the difference is. For a brutal backstab like we've seen in some of these guys - I could understand a very harsh reaction given how much one can invest in their own game. It happens in some circumstances.

This is a total different scenario though. We've had lots of war declarations in the first 30ish turns of game - off the top of my head: PB1, PB2, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM7, a few others too I'm sure. In none of those games did anyone react in nearly so rude a manner as that. Early opportunistic wars are expected. Not only that, but he totally ignored contact by Plako before then, so when your first correspondence from someone is a profanity-laced rant, it's highly immature to say the least. Krill hit it perfectly - it's completely against the spirit of this forum. I've gotten attached to RB because it's literally the only online forum I've ever encountered that doesn't have kiddies up past their bedtime who behave like that.

I think removing him from the game is not for the lurkers to decide though. If the players want that - that's on them by all means - but we need to let it play out. Plako seemed to be amused by it, and I think that's enough to shoot down any idea of kicking him out of the game. If nothing else, it gives us a villain to root against right?

:.popcorn:

Edit: Also, I don't think mandatory threads are a good idea. That said, given the fact that the last guy who refused to create a thread was named Exploit..... Well I'd say that there's some evidence to suggest that Warlord probably won't be well liked around here.

[novice]

I'm not following this game very closely, so possibly I'm missing something, but I don't really see what's so heinous that lurkers are actually seriously advocating having Warlord removed from the game. Not making a thread is sad, but it can't be a great offense as its common on RB for threads to be abandoned or very infrequently updated. Foul language and insults directed toward an opponent are unsporting, but occurs often within threads, especially when war declarations are involved. Is telling the opponent immediately via chat what you think of them really so much worse than sticking it in a thread that they'll read half a year later & which is publicly posted for anyone browsing the site?


I'm not trying to excuse Warlord's language, which is crude and childish. But trash-talk isn't exactly unheard of in online gaming, and if plako takes great offense he can inform Warlord of his objections on the battlefield.

I agree with Bob, you're all overreacting. Get off your high horses people.

Edit: Xpost