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WW37- For Whom the Bell Trolls

I agree with Rowain that Goreripper's claimed abilities aren't credible. Let's face it, night kill immunity and investigations are just the standard set of abilities that you claim if you want everybody to shy away from killing you. So it's consistent with wanting to survive, but not very believable beyond that.

It does seem likely that he's a solo faction, given that he "gave up" so easily. He could have all sorts of sinister side quests, though.

Can you give us more specific details about your abilities, Goreripper? And a full list?
If you know what I mean.
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Quote:Because I was never on you in any serious sense at all. My freaking vote against you was nothing but a nudge, as most first votes are in this game. I was planning on leaving you from the moment I dropped the vote, unless you did something that was more scummy than anything anyone else did. The question was whether or not I needed to change my plans. It's not that complicated.

Facts are facts, Jabbz, you were voting for me. I get that you don't want to overstate how much it meant to you and I agree with that.

But the tone of your post is not "hmm, maybe I should stay with this vote for longer than I intended". It's much more of a "eek, people are voting with me, I'm not part of this/maybe I should leave".
How many times must I discharge my blunderbuss?
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I don't find the Matt case to be substantial at all. Quite frankly it looks fishy as hell to me.

The Gore vote I understand, but I don't agree. If he is a survivor, then there is no reason to vote for him, as he isn't scum, and he can be quite useful to town. It appears that only one person is making arguments saying he could be faking it, but I'm not sure how convincing I find Rowain's argument to be. I'm more inclined to buy the "I don't give a shit, but you could butter me up" Gore, over the "Hey lets make up some whack bullshit for no reason, put myself on everyone's radar, and make myself a target" Gore.

The Gaz vote does seem to have some merit. His vote on me seems to be based on misunderstanding what I was saying. But he then votes Zak based on
(March 16th, 2015, 04:21)Gazglum Wrote: If Agnes is innocent, then ordering another player to 'hop back on' is pretty scummy too, Zakalwe. Doesn't this put Jabbz into a 'damned if he does/damned if he doesn't' kind of bind?
Which seems to be a rather weak argument to me. Then he follows up with
(March 16th, 2015, 08:36)Gazglum Wrote: Ok, Zak, well parried. I guess you retain the passive power of Tight Defense.

Mattimeo seems more invested than last game, cockiness or no. Agnes, when you wake up - Jabbz posted more in his defense after you voted him, do you still think that he's the most scummy?

If we're pressuring people, Goreripper is a good target, but Pindicator has been equally sparse with contributions. Pind, your main point has been that you were sympathetic to Jabbz' case against Q, but didn't like Jabbz' tone. Now that he's posted more and you've had time to activate your scumhunt, what is your read on him? Or anyone?

Starts by backing off Zak, digs for more reasons to vote for me from the Orphan, and then drops a vote on Pindi for not posting enough? Then asks for more info on me? This follows.
(March 16th, 2015, 13:24)Gazglum Wrote: Novice, what happened to your suspicions of Agnes? Is there nobody else you think makes a better choice than Commodore? Right now I'm seeing you wanting to lynch a seer on Day 1, and trying to drag poor intoxicated Lewwyn in after you.

(March 16th, 2015, 13:28)Gazglum Wrote: Also, Jabbz danced his way to post-count lead, now he's restricting himself to making comments on Lewwyn's sobriety.

Novice, what gives you a town read on Jabbz?

With absolutely no reasoning what so ever, he drops off Pindi, and onto Novice, for not being after Agnes anymore, who he never votes against, so must not have found all the suspicious. Why then is it odd that Novice drops off the Orphan? Still digging though for a possible reason to vote for me.

He does look like he is doing his best to find something to throw at someone, and evidently I'm his flavor of the day. Given he was ok with my initial responses, and he never lodges new suspicions about me, it seems very odd that he keeps trying to get people to jump on my wagon.

On the novice vote, Gaz's stinks, and Fenn's looks like a poke more than a jab, and I don't find him to be scummy at all.

I think Lewwyn looks scummy as hell, but lynching him while he is theoretically drunk as a skunk and passed out , and is unable to respond to questions seems a bit harsh.

Given the above Gazglum.

Cross post with a few people talking about Gore.
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(March 16th, 2015, 15:40)Agnes The Orphan Wrote: Facts are facts, Jabbz, you were voting for me. I get that you don't want to overstate how much it meant to you and I agree with that.

But the tone of your post is not "hmm, maybe I should stay with this vote for longer than I intended". It's much more of a "eek, people are voting with me, I'm not part of this/maybe I should leave".

We will have to disagree here Agnes, and leave it at that. If you want to vote for me at some point in the future, that's your call.
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Tally as of post 204:

4 votes: Goreripper (zakalwe, novice, Rowain, Mattimeo)
4 votes: Mattimeo (dtay, Lewwyn, Shadeun, Goreripper)
3 votes: Gazglum (pindicator, Agnes The Orphan, Jabbz)
2 votes: novice (Fenn, Gazglum)

Voting history:
Rowain Wrote: Goreripper
Goreripper Wrote: Jabbz
Fenn Wrote: dtay
Gazglum Wrote: Zakalwe
Jabbz Wrote: Agnes
pindicator Wrote: Zakalwe
zakalwe Wrote: Agnes
Lewwyn Wrote: Gazglum
novice Wrote: Gazglum
dtay Wrote: Mattimeo
Agnes The Orphan Wrote: Rowain
zakalwe Wrote: Gazglum
Rowain Wrote: Shadeun
Gazglum Wrote: Novice
zakalwe Wrote: Mattimeo
Gazglum Wrote: Jabbz
novice Wrote: Agnes
Rowain Wrote: Agnes
Goreripper Wrote: novice
pindicator Wrote: Jabbz
Fenn Wrote: Zakalwe
zakalwe Wrote: Agnes
Fenn Wrote: Lewwyn
Lewwyn Wrote: Jabbz
Jabbz Wrote: Lewwyn
Agnes The Orphan Wrote: Jabbz
Mattimeo Wrote: Shadeun
Rowain Wrote: Goreripper
Gazglum Wrote: Zakalwe
Rowain Wrote: Mattimeo
Lewwyn Wrote: Mattimeo
zakalwe Wrote: Goreripper
Shadeun Wrote: Mattimeo
novice Wrote: Goreripper
Rowain Wrote: Goreripper
Rowain Wrote: Goreripper
Mattimeo Wrote: dtay
Gazglum Wrote: Pindicator
Goreripper Wrote: no lynch
Goreripper Wrote: Mattimeo
Fenn Wrote: novice
Gazglum Wrote: Novice
pindicator Wrote: Gazglum
Agnes The Orphan Wrote: Gazglum
Mattimeo Wrote: GoreRipper
Jabbz Wrote: Gazglum
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(March 16th, 2015, 15:10)novice Wrote: Why don't you try voting based on a scummy post next time.

Are you channeling Jabbz here? smile

I agree that Fenn has been laying a bit low. Not sure if he's scummy.
If you know what I mean.
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It's not a case I want to bring forth or discuss further today, so I agree with letting it be. I'm honestly not sure what my opinion is of you from that whole episode, and I know I have a predilection for finding you scummy.

Good post on the Glum.
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(March 16th, 2015, 14:50)Rowain Wrote: Shadeun why is Mattimeo scummy? What impressions do you have from other players?

Shadeun will there be an answer? You are currently begging to get lynched.
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(March 16th, 2015, 15:46)zakalwe Wrote:
(March 16th, 2015, 15:10)novice Wrote: Why don't you try voting based on a scummy post next time.

Are you channeling Jabbz here? smile

lol

I was actually trying to make a point. smile I don't like it when people give a reason for a vote but don't dare to call it scummy, opting instead to describe it as weird, bizarre, etc.
I have to run.
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(March 16th, 2015, 15:35)zakalwe Wrote: I agree with Rowain that Goreripper's claimed abilities aren't credible. Let's face it, night kill immunity and investigations are just the standard set of abilities that you claim if you want everybody to shy away from killing you. So it's consistent with wanting to survive, but not very believable beyond that.

It does seem likely that he's a solo faction, given that he "gave up" so easily. He could have all sorts of sinister side quests, though.

Can you give us more specific details about your abilities, Goreripper? And a full list?
No sinister side quests. You guys freaking out about me do know you look pretty scared and scummy right?
Quote:You have the following Active Abilities:

Active Ability #1- Determine Affiliation . You can learn the team affiliation of another player once per night (ie: “Player X is a Wolf”) [There is no Wolf faction in this game].

Active Ability #2- Determine Role . You can learn the team role / position of another player (ie: “Player X is a War Correspondent”). This ability only reveals the role title, not any abilities associated with it.

You have the following Passive Powers:

Passive Power- Free Press . You have three shots of complete immunity to all night actions targeting you. This power takes precedence over any other night actions in the game.
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