WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[Serdoa]

Yes, you are playing worse than I do and for this game that's quite an achievement Also, I told already whom I followed this night and his actions.

[Catwalk]

My top list of targets is Xenu, sunrise, Qg, Jowy, and Ichabod in roughly that order.

Xenu for obvious reasons, Qg because of the D1 interactions mostly, Jowy because of how antagonizing he's been and Ichabod mostly for lurking. I'm convinced Serdoa and novice are town (barring solid evidence to the contrary) and I'm leaning town on both Merovech and Mattimeo.

[Jowy]

Yes, you are playing worse than I do and for this game that's quite an achievement Also, I told already whom I followed this night and his actions.

So you're just trying to annoy me with that vote? Well, congrats, you succeeded.
Serdoa

[Catwalk]

Jowy, do you have a plausible reason why Serdoa is our best target tonight? I'm leaning clueless villager on you for posts like this, but you're really not doing yourself or the town any favours.

[Jowy]

Jowy, do you have a plausible reason why Serdoa is our best target tonight? I'm leaning clueless villager on you for posts like this, but you're really not doing yourself or the town any favours.

Of course he's not. But he's managed to piss me off. First he leads a crusade on our town seer to get him killed, doesn't remember to use his power, doesn't remember to hand out items.. Then he comes in telling me that it's me who's playing anti-town and that I'm the reason we're losing. And now further trying to annoy me by voting me without giving any indication why he thinks I'm scum (because he doesn't, it's just to annoy me). If he's really town and his tactic is to annoy the other townies so much that they don't feel like trying to solve this puzzle anymore, well then the town deserves to lose.

[Catwalk]

Well, you've been anti-town before and you're being anti-town now. While Lewwyn was annoying, suggesting that he quits was completely uncalled for and cost us a villager. Can we please get back to hunting scum now?

Same for you Serdoa. I'm all for investigating Jowy, though.

[Mattimeo]

Also, am I reading BRick's post correctly that scum can use both faction kill and their personal ability on the same night? At least that was the case for Azza, so I assume it's the case for all.

As far as we can tell, yes, they can use both at the same time. I think I mentioned that D1 or D2 already and am happy to see that it is being considered by D6.

...wait, wasn't that basically confirmed past need for discussion when Azza flipped?

As a side-note, Serdoa's rant makes me feel even more uneasy about him, considering that the scum just found out how they got screwed by the third faction

ffs Jowy, your going after someone who'd been effctively confirmed as 'not communist' by a seer that *was* accruate when it returned a nagative is *really* getting tiresome.
We were screwed over by Internal Security just as hard, if not harder. Scum lost one person, we went from being basically unkillable except by lynch (seriously, would have been Jowy restoring two clones per night ad infinitum) to being in a normal WW game.

I strongly believe that the Team Leader duty will cease to exist before/as we hit LyLo. That's going to be less helpful if we stick on even numbers, though.

I'm not making much sense of this situation. Why would Catwalk lie about ability name, especially since it was so easy to confirm very little correlation between name and use when there were only a few examples out there. Scum would have had that knowledge from the start. It really wouldn't be that hard to make up a new use of the ability if it was too dangerous to reveal (say, Azza's 'if you make scum nightkill it's strongman') while keepin the name. Why would xenu lie about results specifically to make a delayed trade with a town? I can't believe they're on the cusp of winning if we screw up this lynch, but nothing else makes sense if he's scum :/

Normally, I'd call xenu's role scum-leaning (name of ability gives just enough info for scum to work on, without giving them everything), but the complete disparity between names and abilities leans the power back to town - it's only really useful once a claim has happened, to confirm they weren't lying about flavour. Similarly, I'd normally lean town on paranoid gun owner/non-suicidal bomb, but the massive weakening of requiring a name to work throws me a bit.

...actually, did spacetyrantxenu really claim a flavour name of "Detect Mutant Power"? That's... not like *any* of the other claimed ability names, while being entirely too literal a description to boot.

[Serdoa]

Of course he's not. But he's managed to piss me off. First he leads a crusade on our town seer to get him killed, doesn't remember to use his power, doesn't remember to hand out items.. Then he comes in telling me that it's me who's playing anti-town and that I'm the reason we're losing. And now further trying to annoy me by voting me without giving any indication why he thinks I'm scum (because he doesn't, it's just to annoy me). If he's really town and his tactic is to annoy the other townies so much that they don't feel like trying to solve this puzzle anymore, well then the town deserves to lose.

Feel free to let it out Jowy, you obviously need to When you are done, read again what I wrote. There is nothing even close to stating you are the reason we lose. But you are trolling hard since when the internal security was revealed and Ryan died. If you need that, that's fine with me, just don't expect me to not respond in kind, because I will.

@Mattimeo

I agree. Though I also am really not looking forward to lynch for "meta-game" reasons like his name not matching the others, because I find it entirely plausible that BRick just screwed us over - as he did with town-SKs, changing the game-rules 2/3 through the game or a few other points.

@catwalk

Overview-table for nightactions (a few missing that either were not announced or I simply didn't register them)

[Jowy]

Well, you've been anti-town before and you're being anti-town now. While Lewwyn was annoying, suggesting that he quits was completely uncalled for and cost us a villager. Can we please get back to hunting scum now?

Yeah yeah yeah, back to it Catwalk

Matt, sadly there were some restrictions to my power that I didn't want to share :P I couldn't restore a clone twice for the same person, and I couldn't do it for myself.
We should dig up the flavor list someone made earlier, Rowain IIRC. I think there were others with more plain role names.

[Jowy]

Serdoa, I think Merovech's power was Energy Field.