Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[Sian]

do not think that such an argeement would be to our interest so ...... not interested

[Bigger]

i didn't think about upgrades.. but upgrades are so expensive, could they even upgrade more than 4 warriors? time to get to whipping, cfc!

[Lewwyn]

I really hope this means the war is going poorly for them.

[Nicolae Carpathia]

That's my guess too, reading between the lines.

That's what you get being both weak AND trying to screw us over.

[SleepingMoogle]

Unless there is significant interest or other benefits and a clear agreement on how many turns they will use to repay us, I see no reason to accept their request. Signing a NAP doesn't make us allies, or even friends. It's just a mutual convenience they almost torpedoed preemptively when they settled that junk city right against our border. Plus, if we start supporting CFC financially, we will basically turn against the Spanish, with whom we have decent relations so far.

[SevenSpirits]

If I received that message from a real ally I would start to rethink that alliance. Coming from CFC... lol.

[kjn]

I looked over the gold data, to try to add some more facts to the discussion.

Currently, CFC has 65g and are running a -40 deficit. During the last 10 turns, they have had a max surplus value of +54 (T99) and a max deficit of -84 (T102), once one removes T104 when they captured a large barb city.

[Azza]

I'd like to know how much gpt they think would be acceptable to repay us.

[Nicolae Carpathia]

I wouldn't even ask, because that's an opportunity for them to stick their foot in the door.

[novice]

That's a laughable request from CFC, both in form and content.