September 1st, 2011, 15:15
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I've said it before but I'll say it again, England had the chance to stop this solo with the right S09 moves but these were most definitely NOT them.
September 1st, 2011, 15:48
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luddite Wrote:I read them. I can't say that I made any brilliant moves, but I don't have any big regrets either. I took a gamble to try and risk big to win big, and it didn't work. I'd much rather lose that way, then simply race for Tunis and then sit there with 4 centers doing absolutely nothing for the entire game, which so often happens to Italy.
Nobody forces you to sit at 4 centers and do nothing. You can still attack Austria, France or Turkey after you have build a new Unit in 01.
luddite Wrote:Italy attacks Austria, France attacks Italy, Italy is destroyed but all the rewards go to Austria. Not exactly a coup for France.
Sorry but this is BS. France got 3 of your 4 centers so he did get the most out of the attack on you. Only the last english attack and Frances retreat gave those centers to Austria now. Without the english miscalculating their chances France would have easily remained in posssession of your centers.
September 1st, 2011, 15:59
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So Austria should win it this fall. He's at 15 centers
1) Kick Russia out of Ank - Con S Bla-Ank
2) Take Mar - Pie-Mar
3) Take Mos - Gal-War, Sev S Ukr-Mos
4) Take Mun - Tyl S Boh-Mun
Last one is the only iffy one - Germany could save it by supporting from Silesia, or France by supporting from Ruhr, so if that happens then it's wait til next year
September 1st, 2011, 18:03
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Thoughts from Austria
Quote:Well, that was an interesting turn. Overall it went pretty well for me. I'll explain a few things...
1. At first glance it may look like an oversight that Russia slipped into Ankara, but that was actually what I WANTED him to do. I originally planned to just order F Con-Ank to bounce him there, but that was bad because A) it still let him have some Black Sea options for the fall turn (a lucky guess for him would be obnoxious) and B) if he did something else, my fleet is out of position stuck deep in Turkey. So I decided to order Con-Bla instead. This also meant that if he used Black Sea to support an attack on, say, Sevastapool, I could cut support. It also meant that if he moved into Ankara, I would take the Black Sea. To complement this, I ordered Bul-Con, which means I'll simply re-take Ankara in the fall with no harm done. There's a lot of ways I could have played that, but I think that was the ideal solution.
2. Er, I didn't exactly mean to cut France's Wes support. Whoops. I was just afraid of moving into any other body of water in case he ordered into Tunis, as I would not have another fleet around to force him out of Tunis in the fall. Rather than just hold, I figured I'd order Tun-Wes on the off chance I got in and could threaten Spain. Didn't expect to let England in that way, but it may not make a difference honestly.
2a. As an aside - France COULD retreat into North Africa and take Tunis from me, but that wouldn't exactly be his wisest choice. Still, it's a possibility.
3. I basically can take either Warsaw or Moscow this turn. Probably Moscow makes more sense.
4. I have a shot at solo'ing this turn. It's going to require taking Munich which is not at all a sure thing, but either way I'll be at 17 for sure by the end of the year with a high chance of winning the following year. Fingers crossed. Note: France retreating to North Africa (as mentioned in 2a) would be a way to slow down the solo win... Although given France's past actions, I think he has no interest in stopping me from winning.
So here's hoping the fall turn goes my way. Even if it doesn't, a solo win seems very likely now, as no one can really stop me at the moment except *maybe* England.
September 1st, 2011, 18:04
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Quote:2. Er, I didn't exactly mean to cut France's Wes support. Whoops. I was just afraid of moving into any other body of water in case he ordered into Tunis, as I would not have another fleet around to force him out of Tunis in the fall. Rather than just hold, I figured I'd order Tun-Wes on the off chance I got in and could threaten Spain. Didn't expect to let England in that way, but it may not make a difference honestly.
To comment on this - France's support of Wes S Mao was actually void due to him moving F Mao to Eng
September 1st, 2011, 20:37
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Rowain Wrote:Nobody forces you to sit at 4 centers and do nothing. You can still attack Austria, France or Turkey after you have build a new Unit in 01.
Sorry but this is BS. France got 3 of your 4 centers so he did get the most out of the attack on you. Only the last english attack and Frances retreat gave those centers to Austria now. Without the english miscalculating their chances France would have easily remained in posssession of your centers. Let's just say I disagree very strongly with your analysis, and leave it at that.
This latest move by France- completely abandoning Marseilles- is yet another gift to Austria.
September 2nd, 2011, 07:54
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Quote:Retreat results for Spring of 1909. (rbnopress01.037)
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean -> Portugal.
Germany: Army Berlin -> Silesia.
September 2nd, 2011, 11:54
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So Austria gets MAR and MOS this fall and will end the game the year after (if france doesn't support him into MUN to end it now).
September 4th, 2011, 07:40
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Quote:Movement results for Fall of 1909. (rbnopress01.038)
Austria: Army Constantinople -> Ankara.
Austria: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople -> Ankara.
Austria: Army Tuscany -> Piedmont.
Austria: Army Sevastopol SUPPORT Army Ukraine -> Moscow.
Austria: Army Galicia -> Warsaw. (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Ukraine -> Moscow.
Austria: Fleet Tunis -> Western Mediterranean. (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Piedmont -> Marseilles.
Austria: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT Army Bohemia -> Munich.
Austria: Army Bohemia -> Munich.
Austria: Army Serbia -> Greece.
Austria: Fleet Adriatic Sea -> Ionian Sea.
England: Army Holland -> Kiel.
England: Fleet Prussia SUPPORT Fleet Berlin.
England: Fleet Belgium -> Picardy. (*bounce*)
England: Fleet St Petersburg (north coast) HOLD.
England: Fleet Baltic Sea -> Sweden.
England: Fleet Berlin HOLD.
England: Fleet English Channel SUPPORT Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean -> Brest.
England: Fleet Irish Sea -> Mid-Atlantic Ocean. (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean -> Brest.
France: Army Picardy SUPPORT Army Brest. (*cut*)
France: Fleet Portugal -> Mid-Atlantic Ocean. (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean SUPPORT Fleet Portugal -> Mid-Atlantic Ocean. (*cut*)
France: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Austrian Army Tyrolia -> Munich. (*void*)
France: Army Brest SUPPORT Army Picardy. (*cut, dislodged*)
Germany: Army Silesia -> Berlin. (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Munich SUPPORT Army Silesia -> Berlin. (*cut, dislodged*)
Russia: Army Warsaw SUPPORT Army Moscow. (*cut*)
Russia: Fleet Ankara HOLD. (*dislodged*)
Russia: Army Moscow SUPPORT Army Warsaw. (*cut, dislodged*)
The following units were dislodged:
The French Army in Brest can retreat to Gascony or Paris.
The German Army in Munich can retreat to Burgundy.
The Russian Fleet in Ankara can retreat to Armenia.
The Russian Army in Moscow can retreat to Livonia.
Quote:Retreat results for Fall of 1909. (rbnopress01.039)
France: Army Brest -> Paris.
Germany: Army Munich DISBAND.
Russia: Fleet Ankara DISBAND.
Russia: Army Moscow DISBAND.
Ownership of supply centers:
Austria: Ankara, Budapest, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Marseilles,
Moscow, Munich, Naples, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna,
Trieste, Tunis, Venice, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel,
Liverpool, London, Norway, St Petersburg, Sweden.
France: Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Russia: Warsaw.
Austria: 18 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 6 units. (* VICTORY!! *)
England: 12 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 3 units.
France: 3 Supply centers, 5 Units: Removes 2 units.
Germany: 0 Supply centers, 1 Unit: Removes 1 unit.
Russia: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
The game is over. Thank you for playing.
Quote:The game was won by Austria.
Congratulations on a well deserved victory!
September 4th, 2011, 07:41
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I sent out a broadcast to the players yesterday since the forums were down
Quote:Well the forums didn't pick a good time to be down - right at the conclusion of
our game!!!! :-)
In any case, time for the final reveal - congratulations to SCOOTER as Austria
on his solo win.
The other players in alphabetical order of country
England: Cyneheard
France: Krill
Germany: Shadyforce
Italy: Luddite
Russia: Novice
Turkey: Rowain
If you want to give an EOG (end of game) statement you can do so through the
judge (just signon, type in the word broadcast and then your message and
signoff, or you can wait till the forums come back up and we can do it in the
lurker thread
Thanks to everyone for playing
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