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Nicolae Carpathia · September 23rd, 2016, 20:15

Also, while BD is extremely hammer rich, it might be better to make it a hybrid hammer/commerce city (and cottage it up), and stick our HE city east of the capital).

picklepikkl · September 23rd, 2016, 20:31

From a lore standpoint I have to protest any plan involving focusing Barad-dûr on commerce instead of military and hammers, lurker rules of conduct be damned!

Nicolae Carpathia · September 23rd, 2016, 21:49

Names were allocated before function: switching them around is an option.

Though Baraddur is rather appropriate for the coastal location: it gives excellent vision over the hobbitsssss

El Grillo · September 24th, 2016, 00:29

The dotmap looks good, NC. That's 19 cities before contesting islands or the choke points, if all goes well? On the topic of fictional towers for city names, how about Panopticon and Ghenjei?

ReallyEvilMuffin · September 24th, 2016, 03:01

EoT. Didn't think to get demos sorry

Nicolae Carpathia · September 24th, 2016, 03:05

Yep. In conclusion: keep working scientists for odds on an academy (a constitution bulb isn't that valuable, and is weak in the long run). We'll cottage the plains river. Finally, we'll road the grass hills west of BD.

ReallyEvilMuffin · September 25th, 2016, 03:44

Now we are getting into conundrums from the sim divergence. I tried to get the cap to reach size 10 in every way and failed. However working the tiles I had it down from it is only 1 food short from 1t of growth, whereas I had to work multiple unimproved tiles to get that on the sim. It can essentially switch to a grass cottage and give baradur the horses to grow in 1 turn, although it doesn't really have anything to build that is that useful. It reaches 31 hammers like this. It would delay the settler by a turn, so I don't think we should do this (note we will struggle for useful tiles once the hills are chopped, and we want to whip all the cities down for settlers/workers after the GA) but if I were aware of that I might have been able to make something of it.

UU will get a GP in 4t. Currently it is 37/63 GS/GE. If we choose to delay it, we can increase the odds of it being a scientist.

Divergence from the plan is the workers that are now on the new plains cottage rather than farming 2 of Isenguard. Send one to the galley and gold next turn, then the other I was gonna send South to help set up for the new city, which is probably more useful than improving other tiles up north as they will be whipped off soon.

Next turn we will start getting workers from SM, Isenguard... I am not sure. I'm holding off in hope of getting a free religion spread and stacking some GPP if I'm 100% honest.

ReallyEvilMuffin · September 26th, 2016, 02:14

Lots to talk about this turn. Lets start with other civs, particularly the city count. Scooter is up to 8 cities! Settling before and after the roll (easy not to notice in the mess of score changes near the roll). Of note is that they have settled that river basin location, they have one of those rices up. Next is mack on 6 who has been a little while, then us/WK/Plako on 5 and mistoin on 4. Niether Mistoin or WK have settled on their coast with us, but mistoin does have a city like our UU (possibly same place) and WK has the grass wheat running so might be on his east coast.

This is important because of the tech situation this turn. Perhaps best view with the news of the recent great people.

Mistoin has also picked up Astro! He recently had a scientist who probably would have gone to that. But it is still 2000 beakers... Roaring ahead. I think with this opening up sci method they are perhaps racing ahead for the Kremlin? They can go sci meth>communism and it would be really useful this early. Plako has also picked up nationalism this turn, so not too far behind us. No other wonders/techs have fallen. Scooter got a GE this turn also, so I believe him and plako have them in waiting still.

Cities - slight change after getting the plains cottage, sent the worker not going on the galley south of tower now. He can get a road going on the jungle tile below tower to speed workers going down there. Results in less worker turns lost overall.

Demos

Pretty good, although I wonder who that high GNP is. Maybe mistoin running a lot of specs. We fly out into the lead if we don't save gold. But we are in a GA. Note costs currently are 22gpt for us, starting to pay civic maitainence and inflation too.

City shots

Not done for a while

Lent the mine of Isenguard to baradur so it could grow this turn on coast. Settlers out in 2 and 4 turns. Worker from SM due in 2. Wondering whether need to put something with the pike in the river basin city with astro gone, but probably not this early without any obvious cities on that coast from them.

ReallyEvilMuffin · September 26th, 2016, 15:46

Scooter and Mack are still at war. Nothing seen out in the gold/silver islands. Settler chopped out as per micro plan. GP due in 2 turns, currently 58% chance scientist.

ReallyEvilMuffin · September 27th, 2016, 11:50

So plans afoot!

We have visibility of the gold/silver area.

Moderate amounts of food. Obviously gold island can share the already worked clams and silver the fish where the rices are also. Note the WK culture there. He doesn't seem to have settled the coast there which seems odd to me. Might allow us to take the water here a little easier. If we don't think that we can stretch to owning both these islands, then our gold city can go 66 of the worker on the gold rather than 6 to try and claim more tiles.

GP in UU

Gonna be about a 2/3 1/3 chance of sci/eng. Lets see what the roll brings. I think we should keep the GPP generation going until at least the end of the GA and out of caste with the bonus currently.

General overview

Settler ready for rice spot next turn. Will have 4 workers for those resources. Tower settler due 2t. Baradur I am not 100% sure what to get this turn. As it is currently lacking much food surplus I thought it may as well start a settler when it wouldn't be growing. Isenguard will finish the workboat build for the gold island and then probably go settler pre8-4 whip (worth 150) SM will get one more worker before growing to 6 and then thinking of a 6-3 whip, or 8-4.

Scooter sent another map trade offer last turn, declined as they will get city vis on us soon (we lost graphs again, need 20+ points to get back) and I don't want that to be on more cities than needed.

Any thoughts on the builds?

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