September 27th, 2012, 16:20
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Guys,
I am not sure we have any really strong cases here. What do you think?
I can offer the village a risky chance if we think we could well mislynch tomorrow
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September 27th, 2012, 16:25
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About the last three posts
On Day 1, when thestick finally came in to defend himself he voted for mattimeo. This was post 200 and at the time the vote tally was thestick in the lead with 5, a couple people tied with 2, and his was the first vote on mattimeo.
Then the mattimeo push happens: uberfish, serdoa, and myself all vote on him and puts mattimeo ahead of thestick 6-5. Mattimeo then claims and votes for thestick, making it 6-6.
Why would the wolves need to do anything now? They've already accepted that they were going to lose a power role day 1, they just want to make sure they buy as much cover for the one that doesn't get lynched that day. We've been assuming that they bussed thestick to save mattimeo, but what if it wasn't so deliberate?
What if it was all villagers making the movement after the claims while the wolves sat back to see which way the winds blow
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September 27th, 2012, 16:57
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I'll answer vis-a-vis lynch reactions tonight. Need better quoting ability than I posess right now. Missed the question first time around.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
September 27th, 2012, 17:11
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pindicator Wrote:@rowain - should i keep fighting or will taking the mislynch for info be better for the village?
Taking a (mis) lynch without fight doesn't give good info.
But pind it is not one single action of day1 that brings you under fire. It is the whole packet. The one slight not-scum-line I see for you is that you voted Matt and started the waggon. But I don't need TT to point out how easy that could have been a wolfploy (with 2 claimed roles in reserve). See I do wonder if the hole thestick / mattimoeo thing was a planned move to 'force' them to claim and get them good cover as confirmed powerroles.
I would say tough luck for the wolves that it (so far at least) backfired.
This of course hints again on a devious mind directing the wolves. (and yes: Lewwyn does spring to mind here).
Twinkletoes89 Wrote:I can offer the village a risky chance if we think we could well mislynch tomorrow What do you have in mind?
September 27th, 2012, 17:14
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thestick Wrote:I am a 2-Shot Watcher. I can learn the names of whoever targets a player I choose.
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Going back to gather thoughts.
I'm going to use meta to clear injera ... i think this clears him, at least.
Why does thestick claim 2-shot watcher instead of regular watcher? My guess is that the wolves saw that their other roles were limited in duration and then suspected that the village PRs were the same. Plus - we've only seen 2 days of post restriction and now 2 days where nobody is restricted.
I think if they saw there were other unlimited-duration abilities then thestick might have been more comfortable claiming his natural role.
So I'm putting injera back in the town bucket for now.
@rowain - fight on it is then. I'm just tired of defending day 1. If i'm suspect for more than day 1 then why is day 1 all anybody wants to ask me about? 
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September 27th, 2012, 17:17
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I tried, but then you started shouting. So I'm pursuing Azza for now, since you didn't have any good answers.
September 27th, 2012, 17:24
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Right guys, I'm bringing this out into the open.
I have a village power role. I am a 'Paranoid Chemist'
This role means that I am a paranoid person (who'd have thought...) who is afraid that the mafia will kill me by day. Thus I have a special poison dart that I can fire at someone of my choice upon my mislynch. I cannot fire it if I am night killed, nor at any other time.
I am coming out now because I think we are soon at the point where a mislynch is too painful to the village. If I am mislynched tomorrow, I can take my shot and if I hit a villager (hopefully not), the village can still win. But if I leave it much later, I could be nightkilled and we lose the opportunity, or the opportunity cost becomes too high.
Thus I propose, as I see a very confused village with no really big leads, that you lynch Twinkletoes89 on this day and let me take my shot (I will listen to suggestions for targets) and hopefully the reaction to this claim along with the deaths of myself and the victim, may give the village more information and hopefully one less wolf to worry about.
You can of course, choose not to follow me. But I see no better option right now. Plus I think I'm reaching the end of my usefulness, and I don't want my paranoia to cause other mislynches when things get tighter.
I leave my fate up to you. I'm likely going to be up and around until the end of the NFL tonight, so I will answer and react to what I can.
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September 27th, 2012, 17:30
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I'm not in favour of lynching TT.
September 27th, 2012, 17:32
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Mathematically, the way things are laid out, the "bonus kill" TT does will not affect the number of mislynches available. It won't make us lose a day sooner. A minor advantage? Sort of...
But I don't find TT all that suspicious. So I don't want to do this.
September 27th, 2012, 17:39
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What's the point of your proposal, TT? We'd still have to decide who you kill.
I have to run.
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