February 18th, 2011, 23:12
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plako Wrote:It might be also best to settle on the position where his warrior is now. c2 is clearly a weaker spot. I wish there wouldn't be pigs where they're now that would be the best spot to take assuming he settles in place.
From civstats I noticed someone named Metallian loggen in on Warlord's account. I think I've seen that name somewhere in the league forums so that pretty much confirms his "no warrior rushing" community is the league or some clan there  .
The warrior spot or 1S would be decent. The one south gets the wheat. Borders should pop against his when we attack anyway. I guess if we are dead set on attacking, we should figure out the timing of it.
Also Metallian:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/member.php?u=159138
http://civ4players.proboards.com/index.c...=metallian
The one mentioned here? http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/18679...read/page3
and here? http://betaleague.civplayers.com/index.p...ic=2294.15
Quote:It's true mookie and metallian can carry most nwbs...............
Prolly this guy?
http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?sect...f_user=270
Haven't heard of him but he seems to be a high ranked ladder player or the best Civ4 player ever or something. 
BTW- WarlordDr
http://www.civplayers.com/?section=profile&user=101
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February 19th, 2011, 00:40
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Nice detective work. Thank you. Fast check on those threads revealed that Metallian is also old team mate of Speaker. So there is fair chance I'm behind in skills required to build an army and how to use it. However they're terrible in the diplomacy unless they do it totally different for other players. Their bullying really makes me want to do exactly opposite and focus on military build up that naturally is not in their best intrest.
In general I'm glad that high skilled players from league are involved although not totally happy to find myself on top of their hit list  .
February 19th, 2011, 01:04
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fluffyflyingpig Wrote:With Lol as the capital, I was expecting the naming scheme to be internet acronyms, not memes. I don't really think of 'LOL' as a meme per se.
ComeAtMeBro won't really work as a city name if you plan on axe rushing warlord... Wasn't this the turn the peace treaty ended? Think he'll try some Li Ping doctrine shenanigans?
I thought so too, but I'm flexible for good other ideas. Factually you're also right, but deception isn't bad either. Are there acronyms that would have a similar meaning?
As Cynerhead suspected forced peace ended previous turn i.e. T32 and I'm not gonna take another forced peace period at this point.
February 19th, 2011, 03:18
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I got a message from Nakor apparently there are horses 5E from silver. This surely gives new options to think about.
February 19th, 2011, 08:43
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Well, I was thinking for the Western Fish City, BRB.
ComeAtMeBro just seems fitting if we aggressively settle towards Warlord. I also don't think we will be able to do much with horses until much later. We'd have to get HA which is a pretty big investment. If we want to attack later, we should I guess establish a front city(c2 would be good for trying to push our culture next to his and we will probably steal his gold after he mines it) and just get the best land split we can and snow ball our way to an advantage. Also, like you said, if warring is his strong suit and diplomacy is not, we might as well let him hang himself.
If we want to attack, I guess getting 2 axes ASAP would be good. We won't be able to bust more than one archer reliably. We can keep an eye on his city either with 1N of warrior or the w33 tile.
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February 19th, 2011, 09:32
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If he gets Archer or anything better in the city, we can't attack city with just 2 axes. Pillaging would probably still work. I think there is a fair chance there are warriors only. If we delay WB we could get 1 Axe out so that it is on the gates of his coming city in 11T. Another alternative is "minimum cost" attack. We finish the WB, grow to 2 finish the Axe and then chop another axe. 1st one should be there in ~13T. This way we could avoid whipping the copper tile away.
February 19th, 2011, 10:54
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What do you think his ETA for archery is? I think that if we attack, he'll just goto slavery and whip one out.
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February 19th, 2011, 11:20
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I suspect he doesn't even consider researching Archery currently. He lacks both AH and Agriculture. He needs either one of them to get his latest city up and running.
February 19th, 2011, 11:27
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Really? Is he running some sort of 4v4 MP build or something?
If so, we can get an axe at T43? I'm sure we could shave some time off it if we are super clever about it. Also, what about about C2?
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February 19th, 2011, 11:38
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antisocialmunky Wrote:Really? Is he running some sort of 4v4 MP build or something?
If so, we can get an axe at T43? I'm sure we could shave some time off it if we are super clever about it. Also, what about about C2?
If we're certain we could raze their city we could delay settling c2 so that we could position it to agressive c2 1E from Pigs. Otherwise settling on their warrior position seems best candidate.
Earliest possible Axe comes in 4T, when we finish our chop. It means we should switch to Axe next turn, if we want that. Overall it becomes costly because we delay WB considerably so I'm not that big fan of it. I think better alternative is to Finish WB 3T + Grow in 2T. That should give us Axe in 7-8T and another very soon after that with another chop and then we could even whip 3rd Axe.
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