WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

[Muriel The Slow]

But she also didn't change her mind. In the post she votes for me, she says that she's not convinced that I'm a wolf. But she still votes for me. Her last post is conflicting, she both changes her mind and doesn't. That's because, according to my theory, she needs to throw a vote at me to make sure a wolf doesn't get lynched, but she still wants to look innocent when I turn out to be a villager.

In any case, even if you don't buy my argument, why do you think that makes me a wolf? I don't really understand why either me or Mary has to be a wolf, we could just as well both be villagers.

[Sir Percival]

I'm not obsessed with meta. I knew that people would be, and that it would be bad for the village, which is why I wanted to get it out of the way quickly.

None of my cases have been meta. Rob, Percival and Mary cases have nothing to do with meta. If you count Courage villager lean as a case, than that does, but it's the only one.

u fueled massive meta discussion for long time. no matter how u word it was bad for town.

i dunno what ur rob case was. percy or sis mary cases werent meta. were poor cases on targets easiest to attack. scum dont care who lynched just not scum. hence pick easiest lynches.

[Muriel The Slow]

I'm not obsessed with meta. I knew that people would be, and that it would be bad for the village, which is why I wanted to get it out of the way quickly.

None of my cases have been meta. Rob, Percival and Mary cases have nothing to do with meta. If you count Courage villager lean as a case, than that does, but it's the only one.

u fueled massive meta discussion for long time. no matter how u word it was bad for town.

i dunno what ur rob case was. percy or sis mary cases werent meta. were poor cases on targets easiest to attack. scum dont care who lynched just not scum. hence pick easiest lynches.

Meta discussion was going to happen no matter what. I wanted to put a stop to that. People didn't listen to me and kept going, which is a shame. But I did succeed at least partially, because we have stopped talking about revealing our identities or trying to figure out who everyone is. I also managed to make the last name reveals stop. So even though it didn't work as well as it could have, I think it was a success and I'd do it again in the same situation.

I don't see how Rob or Percy or Mary were easy cases. No-one else was voting for Rob or Mary, and many people were saying that you are a villager. If I wanted an easy target to go at to save myself, shouldn't I just join a bandwagon?

[Sir Percival]

if u bring up meta of course people talk about meta. u kept talking meta. if u didnt want meta ud attack those who meta not out-meta them.

mary is easy case because she said she partying and wont be on. im easy case because roleplaying making hard to defend and also attract ire for posting weird.

[Half-Nose Harry]

But she also didn't change her mind. In the post she votes for me, she says that she's not convinced that I'm a wolf. But she still votes for me. Her last post is conflicting, she both changes her mind and doesn't. That's because, according to my theory, she needs to throw a vote at me to make sure a wolf doesn't get lynched, but she still wants to look innocent when I turn out to be a villager.

In any case, even if you don't buy my argument, why do you think that makes me a wolf? I don't really understand why either me or Mary has to be a wolf, we could just as well both be villagers.

You say that Mary felt she needed to throw her vote on you "to make sure a wolf doesn't get lynched". At the time she voted you, you were out well ahead of anyone else iirc. Who is it that she is protecting? Or are you supposing that she parked her vote on you as the front-runner just in case a wolf were to collect votes later?

[Half-Nose Harry]

Also I don't see the meta discussion involving Muriel as much of a scum tell. Yes she has talked about it a good deal, but she initially only touched on it a bit, and it keeps getting brought up by others so she addresses it to defend herself. I still think she is suspicious, but not for this.

[Friar Andrew]

It looks like a filler post that's more to say "I'm here" than anything else, and I think that's a typical thing wolves do.

That's very much what it was. Do I need to point out that villagers still have a vested interest in keeping ourselves alive through a lynch, given we're generally the only confirmed town we know of? I shouldn't, but it seems that people here tend to correlate 'trying not to die' with 'wolf' more often than not. Yes, I understand that hunting is more useful, but if I lack the time for that at the moment, should I just not do anything, and get mislynched as an 'obviously lurking wolf'?

Sorry, hectic weekend on this end. Should be online he next hours to contribute in some semblance of a meaningful way.

Firstly, on Courage, though I really disliked his first post, for not being precisely in the spirit of the game, I read all his interventions as villagery. His irritation towards me is more than fair, so there's that. Again, sorry. Personal preferences aside. That being said, many of his contributions have been towards the reworking of his "persona" in his first post. Agree with sir Percy, the meta does not clear him.

I agree with Agnes' reasoning towards the number of scum, considering too the promises made by the narrator.

On Muriel versus the world. I fail to see the substance behind the arguments. Rob's initial attack has been justified by the perception of a "wall of text" consiting of two parragraphs. If the initial vote was some sort of joke vote, he wouldn't have pushed the case further. Though I agree with Sir Percy's assesment on Courage, his stance on Muriel eludes me.

My suspicions lean towards Rob the Filch. True, this is day one and in the week end, so not much to begin with, and the new acconts slow the meta arguments based on past performances. I find his attack suspicious, arguing absent reasoning. If he was just to gauge reactions, his persistance makes liitle sense, other, if, you know, scum.

@Courage, I know this does not make up for the absence of this sweet little nun, but, we are her now, ready to rumble!

This post is a wolf checklist. Mary is running down all the things she needs to repond to in order. The use of abbreviated paragraphs and breaks in between short and not very substantial points or responses is pretty clearly a way to expand and organize the checklist. I don't see anything here of real substance.

Seems to me more fitting with exactly what was claimed at the start of the post - not much time. Quick run through of what she considers notable points to get her view out there. I know I tend to posts exactly like this when I'm not giving the game my full attention. So I don't really see how it's a major wolf tell?

In fact most points are wishywashy, could be this could be that statements.

That's really the only argument that holds water against it.

Friar Andrew voted Percival, then un-voted after a weird exchange. He hasn't had a vote on anyone the rest of the day so far, and as Scarlet John pointed out the one post he has made since then is basically filler.

Yes, because Scarlet John has really been hunting hard for scum, with his random Muriel-vote, easy me-vote, aspersions on Muriel, then a few more random aspersions, back on the person he's actually voting for this time. Definitely someone with trustworthy, well developed arguments, there.

if u bring up meta of course people talk about meta. u kept talking meta. if u didnt want meta ud attack those who meta not out-meta them.

mary is easy case because she said she partying and wont be on. im easy case because roleplaying making hard to defend and also attract ire for posting weird.

Agreed with all of these points. Muriel was the one who kept the discussion about meta going, all the while saying we should stop with it. And I'm really not fond of wagons that appear out of nowhere like Mary's did.

Muriel's insistence that anyone attacking her was lying, contrasted with her own shady information sourcing when establishing a case, just doesn't ring true to me either.
[color=#FF0000]Muriel the Slow{/color]

[Friar Andrew]

Muriel the Slow*

[Muriel The Slow]

But she also didn't change her mind. In the post she votes for me, she says that she's not convinced that I'm a wolf. But she still votes for me. Her last post is conflicting, she both changes her mind and doesn't. That's because, according to my theory, she needs to throw a vote at me to make sure a wolf doesn't get lynched, but she still wants to look innocent when I turn out to be a villager.

In any case, even if you don't buy my argument, why do you think that makes me a wolf? I don't really understand why either me or Mary has to be a wolf, we could just as well both be villagers.

You say that Mary felt she needed to throw her vote on you "to make sure a wolf doesn't get lynched". At the time she voted you, you were out well ahead of anyone else iirc. Who is it that she is protecting? Or are you supposing that she parked her vote on you as the front-runner just in case a wolf were to collect votes later?

Yes to the last question, I believe it was just a precaution because of how unpredictable the day has been aside from the Muriel bandwagon. If I don't get lynched, the field is very open and could hit a wolf. So better add some coal to the Muriel lynch train to make sure it arrives at the station. I must add, the earlier Mary comes back, the less chance there is that she is a wolf, in my opinion.

[Bert The Bard]

Also I don't see the meta discussion involving Muriel as much of a scum tell. Yes she has talked about it a good deal, but she initially only touched on it a bit, and it keeps getting brought up by others so she addresses it to defend herself. I still think she is suspicious, but not for this.

I agree with the bolded part, but what is Muriel suspicious for then?