[SPOILERS] PB20 Lurker Thread of Perfect Hindsight

[spacetyrantxenu]

Would anyone be at all surprised to see Mackoti attack Gawdzak after duping him with agreeing to a defensive pact? Pure evil, and pure win if it alleviates Gawdzak's paranoia and stops him from rushing defenses while Mack does his last preparations.

[The Black Sword]

Nah, no chance Mack attacks Gawdzak(and I thought that before the defensive pact). Why attack the one neighbour who could fight back? Haram, Grimace and Retep should watch out though.

[Gaspar]

Yeah, Mack already got his pound of flesh from Gawdzak with the whips, etc. (And don't think that wasn't intentional.) He'll bite off something chewier now.

[GermanJoey]

Heh. Although Seven is also a condescending ass, so this is just delicious all around.

If you hate everyone here, why do you even post.

My antipathy is limited to just a couple of the pompous ones...like I said, lovely to see it all concentrated.

German's perspective is understandable, but he's wrong about Parkin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAg7AmyG2Ys

well fucking said borsche, well fucking said.

[spacetyrantxenu]

Never pay the blood money, Grimace. It means nothing with Mackoti, he's ruthless. If you were his target and accepted that deal I find it likely he'd attack you anyway if that was his original plan. Aside from that, he can make the offer to several people and only needs one to agree to it. He still goes and conquers someone but with the benefit of your research cash. That doesn't help you win, of anyone else besides Mackoti. If you're already out of the running that's OK, but you may want to consider how your submission to the leader effects the chances of the other players still in contention next time. I'm not trying to be overly critical since you thought you were doing what's best for your civ, but there's a reason Neville Chamberlain isn't fondly remembered by history. Never pay the blood money.

[Qgqqqqq]

Never pay the blood money, Grimace. It means nothing with Mackoti, he's ruthless. If you were his target and accepted that deal I find it likely he'd attack you anyway if that was his original plan. Aside from that, he can make the offer to several people and only needs one to agree to it. He still goes and conquers someone but with the benefit of your research cash. That doesn't help you win, of anyone else besides Mackoti. If you're already out of the running that's OK, but you may want to consider how your submission to the leader effects the chances of the other players still in contention next time. I'm not trying to be overly critical since you thought you were doing what's best for your civ, but there's a reason Neville Chamberlain isn't fondly remembered by history. Never pay the blood money.

And then Mackoti posts 5mins later to say he was going to attack Grimace but changed.

Note to self: Pay Mack the blood money

[spacetyrantxenu]

Note to self: Demand blood money from Q.

[Commodore]

Never pay the blood money, Grimace. It means nothing with Mackoti, he's ruthless. If you were his target and accepted that deal I find it likely he'd attack you anyway if that was his original plan. Aside from that, he can make the offer to several people and only needs one to agree to it. He still goes and conquers someone but with the benefit of your research cash. That doesn't help you win, of anyone else besides Mackoti. If you're already out of the running that's OK, but you may want to consider how your submission to the leader effects the chances of the other players still in contention next time. I'm not trying to be overly critical since you thought you were doing what's best for your civ, but there's a reason Neville Chamberlain isn't fondly remembered by history. Never pay the blood money.

And then Mackoti posts 5mins later to say he was going to attack Grimace but changed.

[GermanJoey]

Never pay the blood money, Grimace. It means nothing with Mackoti, he's ruthless. If you were his target and accepted that deal I find it likely he'd attack you anyway if that was his original plan. Aside from that, he can make the offer to several people and only needs one to agree to it. He still goes and conquers someone but with the benefit of your research cash. That doesn't help you win, of anyone else besides Mackoti. If you're already out of the running that's OK, but you may want to consider how your submission to the leader effects the chances of the other players still in contention next time. I'm not trying to be overly critical since you thought you were doing what's best for your civ, but there's a reason Neville Chamberlain isn't fondly remembered by history. Never pay the blood money.

that's counter to what he's done/said in previous games... he will extort and bully, yes, but he always honors his agreements as far as I can tell. just off the top of my head, he honoured those huge-turn NAPs he extorted from scooter and Finharry near the end of PB13, and I remember reading some PBEM, where he was Pericles, where he had a near full-game NAP with Gaspar.

[Commodore]

Never pay the blood money, Grimace. It means nothing with Mackoti, he's ruthless. If you were his target and accepted that deal I find it likely he'd attack you anyway if that was his original plan. Aside from that, he can make the offer to several people and only needs one to agree to it. He still goes and conquers someone but with the benefit of your research cash. That doesn't help you win, of anyone else besides Mackoti. If you're already out of the running that's OK, but you may want to consider how your submission to the leader effects the chances of the other players still in contention next time. I'm not trying to be overly critical since you thought you were doing what's best for your civ, but there's a reason Neville Chamberlain isn't fondly remembered by history. Never pay the blood money.

that's counter to what he's done/said in previous games... he will extort and bully, yes, but he always honors his agreements as far as I can tell. just off the top of my head, he honoured those huge-turn NAPs he extorted from scooter and Finharry near the end of PB13, and I remember reading some PBEM, where he was Pericles, where he had a near full-game NAP with Gaspar.

...the same PBEM where he NAP-stabbed me when I was a threat to win the game, yes.

That was the game Gaspar and I stopped reporting our wonder timings too.