WW40 - Game Thread

[Marcus Aurelius]

(continued) -> that there probably isn't any alignment switching going to happen (but could make people lose powers, gain a bad one, etc) ... and probably becoming a minion would be the farthest that torture will go ...

I mean, losing an Investigator would be pretty bad. or any other sorts of roles ... so that you can't have say, a confirmed Doctor/Jailer/Tracker, because torturing them would cause either a role loss, or possibly subvert their powers (or give them a bad one). After all ... a pure alignment shift would probably break the game as much (or more so) than a full SEER.

Ergo, I see no reason why torture would cause an alignment shift

[zakalwe]

What do you mean by becoming a minion?

[Marcus Aurelius]

what I mean is, that the closest thing we would see to 'alignment change' is someone who 'wins' with the wolves, but who can't nightkill/ talk with the wolves/ etc. If I recall, that's exactly the definition of "minion" ... jeez loueez man

[Rowain]

GG Gazglum Very well played

Ergo, I see no reason why torture would cause an alignment shift

Because the GM told us so

Torturing can and will have unintended consequences. This can range from changing or losing powers, gaining new win-conditions to changing alignment.

Btw Mattimeo wanted to be tortured so threatening him with a green vote will only make him laugh.


I'm still against torturing so to make that clear: No Torture

[zakalwe]

Also, you think people respond differently to being tortured, and Mattimeo wants to be tortured. Why do you want to torture him?

[Marcus Aurelius]

My apologies, I must have overlooked that.

If he wants to be tortured, three possibilities.

1) he is a bastard tanner

2) he is bluffing

or the most likely

3) he is a minion, and torturing him would turn him into a full Wolf.

No Torture

Mattimeo

[zakalwe]

Gazglum, why would you want for people to Name-reveal during the Night?

Why would this post cause scum to change their night kill target to Gazglum?

(Sorry for the interrogation, but it is useful.)

[zakalwe]

Well Novice, mainly it just didn't add up with Brick. I mean, his Kassandra reveal was nice, if a bit sloppy.

But more than that, it was the torturer that convinced me. With only 2 mislynches before lylo, it would seem prudent to reveal ones self as a torturer to prevent a mislynch.

Did you have a read on someone specific as the likely torturer?

Please answer this, too.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Sure, well ... I think the assumption here is that the Wolves thought I was a Vigilante (I assume, probably only a 1-shot vigilante would be balanced in this set up, but nevertheless)

Either that, or, more likely ... they thought that, because I wrote his name in red, people would think that I might have been a vig, or something.

Honestly though, they must have thought that I wasnt actually a Vig, because otherwise they would have pushed for 2 night-kills by targeting someone else.


Mainly I think they did it just for fun ... but, on the other hand, my main reason to think that they changed their vote is because after I posted, shortly thereafter Serdoa notified us that he would be late on the write-up, by a relatively short amount of time (AKA changing night action results).

[Marcus Aurelius]

I wasn't around Day 1 ... not really. So I tried to read some of the posts but I couldnt get to all of it.

I had a slight read that maybe Novice was the torturer ... but honestly? I don't think that the Torturer is going to reveal himself until he absolutely has to ... I'm just saying, that it might be sooner than later, and that I can protect him for at least one night if he reveals.

As stated earlier, I protected novice b/c I felt a strong town read from him, and maybe a 25% torturer read.