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RBP3 - [SPOILERS] - Team DIM (Mehmed of HRE)

Ilios Wrote:"...concern IS aggressive settlements..."

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could we narrow that down to "the area between our capitals (east of Aquilonia, west of DIM)"?
They could interpret "Everything we've explored W of our capital" as all the scouting we've done so far to our west.

yes although that would require them to tell us where aquilonia is so we know where to cut off the screenshot. we might be better off just trading info straight up? conan's explored a ton of space between the capitals so it's not a bad trade

They won't be able to trade us Maths if they don't have Alphabet. Unless you expect them go for Alphabet and then Maths, and then trade us Maths?

ultimately if it's only the two of us trading techs we'll be very very screwed as i think there will either be 4 blocs of ~4 or 3 blocs of ~5-6 forming to trade alpha/maths/monarchy/IW etc among each other. you make a good point that we should make it clearer we want to include more civs in the trade.

Could you ask them if we can somehow put Writing in the deal (either as an advance or to be traded for a religion tech)? I would really like to skip teching for it.
Do they plan on beelining to Alpha?

good point

Speaking of which...

Dazed, I've got my hands pretty full with the C&D (I'll send you guys another update next turn), and with Meatbalz handling diplomacy, I was wondering if you would have the time to set up a sandbox game?



maybe put this as a PS?

if you prefer, it's fine with me. it probably belongs in the body of the message though?

Otherwise, good job young man! (Good one on the "more talking" smile

edit: i've edited the original draft to include much of what ilios said
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Ok that looks good! Let's see if Dazed has some suggestions, and then we'll sign off and send the message to A4.

Concerning Conan and the screenshot trade: It's all fine by me, but I think you'll see that Conan will have explored a lot of land we already know, considering the broad clockward sweep they have done. Anyway, we'll see their reply and take it from there.
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Sorry I didn't reply sooner. My morning was spent shovelling snow instead of checking Civ!

I'm good with moving Tricky East and promoting him.

The diplo message doesn't adress the "cool down" period. I believe their proposal was NAP till T50 with 10 turn cool down. I highly doubt a war before T60 so I'm fine with a NAP until then, but want to continue to object to any cool down period on principle.

Since our scouts have been spending so much time wounded, I'm not too concerned with giving away more map info than we get.

Regarding Tech trading, I am glad to "prime the pump" as it were, but I would suggest we avoid getting too specific. Neither of our civs will be able to trade techs any time soon and by then we'll hopefully have met other civs. I want to keep a strong relationship going but not feel bound to trade with them. I wouldn't want to set up an expectation that we fail to live up to and therefore create hostile feelings.

Those be my thoughts, but I'm not great at pointing them in a diplomatic way, so I'm glad that isn't my job! :neenernee

Seriously, though, you're doing a great job so far!
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thanks for the feedback dazed; i've modified some of the draft, particularly the part pertaining to tech trading. do you think that's better or would you like me to change it further? happy to do so...

i agree cooldown on NAP is pointless, however since any NAP is contingent on a settling plan we don't need to start negotiating it yet (and we haven't even asked them when they get BW lol - that can wait until we've exchanged screenshots)
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meatbalz Wrote:i agree cooldown on NAP is pointless, however since any NAP is contingent on a settling plan we don't need to start negotiating it yet (and we haven't even asked them when they get BW lol - that can wait until we've exchanged screenshots)

Good point! See, this is why you're in charge of this stuff! bow
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Shoveling snow eh? Glad that's not MY job... smile

Dazed, can you log on to the game and move Tricky/end turn?
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I think MB is gonna log in b/c I'm at work for the next 8 hours. Someday, I'll be work free and able to log in whenever I want. (Do you think anyone will still be playing Civ when we're retired in 40 years?!?!)
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dazedroyalty Wrote:Do you think anyone will still be playing Civ when we're retired in 40 years?!?!

Hell yeah! Beats playing Bingo... smoke
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If we're all in agreement regarding our message, shall I send it to A4?
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I see no reason to wait, unless you're too engrossed in your Bingo game! lol
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