[SPOILERS]- Crazy Keelyn is trippin’ Balz: Bobchillingworth of the Balseraphs

[Ravus Sol]

This amount of skeletons is insane. I am loving watching... but the micromanagement must be a B*tch

[mackoti]

Too bad you didn't took out one of the soons.But keep on good game.

[Bobchillingworth]

Thanks guys. Yeah, the turns are time consuming and not particularly fun. I'm hoping that Mardoc & Iskender get their act together soon and kill me off. I have so many skeletons now that I can't even afford them (about 70 in Jubilee, a few others wandering around elsewhere), so stuff is going to start disbanding very soon unless some major combat occurs. They've been pillaging my improvements when they can, which obviously doesn't help either.



Mardoc got a clue and remembered to cover his Sons with the elementals this turn, so I wasn't able to finish anything off. Those stupid goddamn Sons... oh well.

[Bobchillingworth]

So, let's see what happens when 70 or so skeletons attack the Sons stack, protected by only a single fire elemental:






<Sounds of 70 units being lost at once in combat>


Answer: They all die, but two skeletons manage to get kills, a tiger and archer respectively. Also the Fire Elemental, despite not dying according to the combat log, no longer appears anywhere in the stack (?)


Loki is also dead, but doesn't show up in the combat log either. Was he somehow dominated? I would think that that would show as well. Weird.


Killed a random Clan Trireme. Yay, I guess.


Hopefully the loss of like 68 skeletons to take down a fire elemental illustrates why I was justified in saying that this was mostly hopeless from the start, even if I was able to hit the Clan stack with vast hordes. That said, a lot of my losses are to Priests of the Leaves, and the tigers soak up a many of the skeletons as well. I might still be able to pull this off even without Gibbon if Iskender wasn't a moron. Not that I want to, anyway. Seriously, if I didn't need to hold onto Jubilee to tech I'd be so tempted to just suicide everything so that I can stop paying for them and get the Infernal pact in like four turns.



Also wtf why am I still first in score this game is a farce.

[Bobchillingworth]

Mardoc & Idiot finally managed to trap my adept stack where I couldn't run without getting pulverized by fire elementals. I guess I could have covered them with warriors or whatever, but man I just do not even care now.


So time to initiate plan Fighting Unctuously, Crazy Keelyn Is Terminated.


We have met the enemy, and we outnumber them:






Only one fire elemental defending! Or two, I can't even see. Who cares, go go skeletons!


[The skeletons all die, none of the enemy do]


Okay, go forth puppets!


[All of the puppets die, a tiger chokes on one maybe]


Well I could just summon more skeletons & hold position, but since the fire elementals will prioritize adepts over them to fight, and I can't build more than a warrior a turn, I'll just lose them gradually anyway. So might as well lose them all at once!


[16 adepts die, but four manage somehow to get kills, although only one of them is a non-summon unit- a PoL]



Aaaand that's it. Good night, Erebus! No more army, no more empire.



Actually, I have two island settlements which might not be razed soon. I'll see if I can get close enough to Hyborem to make them worth hanging on to. If I can't, then Serdoa or SL will get them as a gift (it's fair enough, I owe them stuff anyway for their mana / resource loans :P). Or Mardoc if the others won't take them.


Haha oh yeah and I also built Rosier. I'm gonna stick him on my Island. Rosier dies in too many of these games

[Ravus Sol]

Without all the unit Upkeep what is your Infernal Pact summoning Down to?

[Selrahc]

How easy would it have been to build the tower of necromancy?

I'm just thinking if the Skeletons were all strong they would have defended against the Fire Elementals before the Adepts, and would be much better at clearing enemy stacks. Could have turned the skeletons alone into a war winning force. With Chaos and Entropy mana, and a trade of Death from the Sheaim, all you'd need is Shadow.

But I'm not sure if you even knew Necromancy, and adding research times, time to build a shadow node, and tower construction it probably wouldn't have been possible. Even if you'd started with the beginning of the war.

[uberfish]

This was probably the silliest Civ war ever.

Tower of necromancy is 536h, even under a golden age that won't build too fast

[Bobchillingworth]

Without all the unit Upkeep what is your Infernal Pact summoning Down to?

Like 8 turns, sadly. I've lost several cities now, so I can't pull nearly the amount of beakers I used to.

How easy would it have been to build the tower of necromancy?

I'm just thinking if the Skeletons were all strong they would have defended against the Fire Elementals before the Adepts, and would be much better at clearing enemy stacks. Could have turned the skeletons alone into a war winning force. With Chaos and Entropy mana, and a trade of Death from the Sheaim, all you'd need is Shadow.

But I'm not sure if you even knew Necromancy, and adding research times, time to build a shadow node, and tower construction it probably wouldn't have been possible. Even if you'd started with the beginning of the war.

Yeah that would have been nice, but I didn't have Necromancy and I had turned all my nodes to Earth in preparation for Gibbon anyway. It also would have been nice if I had begged Enchantment from SL, maybe I could have killed a couple extra tigers that way or something (skeletons would still have defended after adepts even with enchanted blades and summoner combat 1, I think).



There's a lot of things I could have theoretically had which would have been nice. Task Masters, for example- if I had had a half-dozen of those, I'd have won this war long ago. Sadly there's only so much tech I think I could have reasonably been expected to get, considering I got attacked only like 120 turns into the game.

[Mygdala]

Given Iskender aligning against you (which you didn't anticipate when you were planning for the Clan attack), do you still see Gibbon as the one unit that would have won the war for you if you could have built them? How exactly would you have used him against the Clan/Sidar stack? Would the presence of a pair of puppet Earth Elementals on defense have been enough to hold out and counterattack?