WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

[Know-Nothing Jon]

Friar Andrew's posts, for reference:

Sir Percival, for being more influential than me.

How exactly is Muriel's post a wall of text? It's 2 paragraphs, and ~10 lines on my screen. Seems an entirely appropriate length for a mildly elaborate "hey idiots, stop analysing useless meta" post.

Lacking a surname here as well.

Kate the Waif, because, as far as I can remember I always first vote for her.

It's bad enough that I'm a waif, and now I'm accused of being a werewolf?

There's precedence

I dont like Lizzy piling on and then saying she'll switch off - why percival too???

Elizabeth is currently on Percival, and has stated a high chance of piling onto Muriel if Percival shows up.

haha suck it fatty

Fair enough.

unvote

I find it amusing how this game follows established patterns despite the anonymous profiles.

It takes a certain mindset to attempt to deliberately shift your play-style to fit with the fact you are theoretically anonymous. And even then it's generally possible to tell it's forced.

why wouldnt the friar let go? His vote was only a joke vote, based on influence. Further, he showed great humility backing down in the face of an insult. Very fitting of a Friar.

But why feel the need to unvote? If it is a joke vote and obviously one then what is the harm in leaving it until he finds something worth exploring further?

It is not my top suspicion but something I think is worth making a note of.

Unvoting helps demonstrate it was a joke vote - necessary, with the amount of deliberate misinterpretation that goes on in WW in general, and this game is proving no exception.

I found the "Fair enough" comment quite funny.

Also that

This weekend is actually rather awkward for me, had very little time free. Will have time tonight to have a more detailed look, but from skimming:

While Elizabeth may not be completely cleared by the meta, I'd say she definitely shouldn't be a Day 1 target. I find those pressing her to be somewhat suspicious because of this.
Initial impressions of the attacks on Muriel was rather poor - they seemed baseless joke votes that then had a case fabricated behind them. Don't have time to go through recent posts in detail, though, and they look to be relevant to developing an opinion on the matter. Though more about Muriel's status than that of the people initially attacking her.

Sir Percival is giving an appearance of disliking the way he's chosen to restrict his speech almost as much as the rest of us do

It looks like a filler post that's more to say "I'm here" than anything else, and I think that's a typical thing wolves do.

That's very much what it was. Do I need to point out that villagers still have a vested interest in keeping ourselves alive through a lynch, given we're generally the only confirmed town we know of? I shouldn't, but it seems that people here tend to correlate 'trying not to die' with 'wolf' more often than not. Yes, I understand that hunting is more useful, but if I lack the time for that at the moment, should I just not do anything, and get mislynched as an 'obviously lurking wolf'?

Sorry, hectic weekend on this end. Should be online he next hours to contribute in some semblance of a meaningful way.

Firstly, on Courage, though I really disliked his first post, for not being precisely in the spirit of the game, I read all his interventions as villagery. His irritation towards me is more than fair, so there's that. Again, sorry. Personal preferences aside. That being said, many of his contributions have been towards the reworking of his "persona" in his first post. Agree with sir Percy, the meta does not clear him.

I agree with Agnes' reasoning towards the number of scum, considering too the promises made by the narrator.

On Muriel versus the world. I fail to see the substance behind the arguments. Rob's initial attack has been justified by the perception of a "wall of text" consiting of two parragraphs. If the initial vote was some sort of joke vote, he wouldn't have pushed the case further. Though I agree with Sir Percy's assesment on Courage, his stance on Muriel eludes me.

My suspicions lean towards Rob the Filch. True, this is day one and in the week end, so not much to begin with, and the new acconts slow the meta arguments based on past performances. I find his attack suspicious, arguing absent reasoning. If he was just to gauge reactions, his persistance makes liitle sense, other, if, you know, scum.

@Courage, I know this does not make up for the absence of this sweet little nun, but, we are her now, ready to rumble!

This post is a wolf checklist. Mary is running down all the things she needs to repond to in order. The use of abbreviated paragraphs and breaks in between short and not very substantial points or responses is pretty clearly a way to expand and organize the checklist. I don't see anything here of real substance.

Seems to me more fitting with exactly what was claimed at the start of the post - not much time. Quick run through of what she considers notable points to get her view out there. I know I tend to posts exactly like this when I'm not giving the game my full attention. So I don't really see how it's a major wolf tell?

In fact most points are wishywashy, could be this could be that statements.

That's really the only argument that holds water against it.

Friar Andrew voted Percival, then un-voted after a weird exchange. He hasn't had a vote on anyone the rest of the day so far, and as Scarlet John pointed out the one post he has made since then is basically filler.

Yes, because Scarlet John has really been hunting hard for scum, with his random Muriel-vote, easy me-vote, aspersions on Muriel, then a few more random aspersions, back on the person he's actually voting for this time. Definitely someone with trustworthy, well developed arguments, there.

if u bring up meta of course people talk about meta. u kept talking meta. if u didnt want meta ud attack those who meta not out-meta them.

mary is easy case because she said she partying and wont be on. im easy case because roleplaying making hard to defend and also attract ire for posting weird.

Agreed with all of these points. Muriel was the one who kept the discussion about meta going, all the while saying we should stop with it. And I'm really not fond of wagons that appear out of nowhere like Mary's did.

Muriel's insistence that anyone attacking her was lying, contrasted with her own shady information sourcing when establishing a case, just doesn't ring true to me either.
Muriel the Slow{/color]

[color=#FF0000]Muriel the Slow*

[Know-Nothing Jon]

Young Will:

My surname is Cot, which is what I have lying in the last few hours, trying to recover freom this nasty hangover. I think there was something wrong with that ale.


It seems strange to me that novice hasn't shown up yet. He's usually here right away for these games, ready to boost his post count. Where are you hiding novice?


Darrell

I'm not spending any energy on speculating about who's who, even though it's obvious in some cases. I have made a case on Half-Nosed Harry, which has nothing to do with who he may or may not be. And that case is being ignored. He didn't comment on it himself either, which is mildly scummy in itself.

So what did I do that's scummy again?

I agree novice, we should stop trying to figure out who everyone is.


what a time to oversleep! I am convinced enough of Courage's innocence, I don't think that angle is worth pursuing anymore. But I'm not exactly sure who I want to vote for, I need to reread the thread once again.

LE: courage pointed out that name claiming Benefits the town and then he name claims. But, Claiming your or anyone else's own name doesnt prove your alignment. He knows this. But why point out only the first part or the business about counter-claims? And even with counter-claims, why not wait for someone to fake claim, however unlikely that is, to reveal? It doesn't make sense to me to point out the first and do the second.

where did courage name claim? I don't recall him ever claiming his own name at all. Bert the Ball claimed to know his name, and others jumped on, but courage neither confirmed nor denied that.

bert the bard, sry

why wouldnt the friar let go? His vote was only a joke vote, based on influence. Further, he showed great humility backing down in the face of an insult. Very fitting of a Friar.

ok, some thoughts now that I've reread.

Murial: I don't see any real effort to create paranoia here, or a real "wall of text." She is explaining her thoughts well. I'm not ready to lynch her yet.
I do find it funny and weird that people interpreted her post saying she knew she was innocence as proof she was scum
I'll keep an eye on her, but I don't see any reason to vote for her.

the person I am most suspicious of is widow edith[/red]. she attacked courage for his initial post. that post gives a slight innocent lean, o maybe a null tell, but certainly not a scum tell. after Jon and the barb jumped on her she shut up and let murial and others draw fire. it seems to me she was trying to see if a mislynch of courage was possible, then disappeared once the possibility of that dissipated.

im also watching no-nothing jon intently, and Rob.

Can someone explain the case (if there is one) on simple anne and friar andrew to me?

why wouldnt the friar let go? His vote was only a joke vote, based on influence. Further, he showed great humility backing down in the face of an insult. Very fitting of a Friar.

But why feel the need to unvote? If it is a joke vote and obviously one then what is the harm in leaving it until he finds something worth exploring further?

It is not my top suspicion but something I think is worth making a note of.

I don't know why he would unvote. maybe because its hard to really suspect anyone this early in the game?

I found the "Fair enough" comment quite funny.

[color=red]widow edith

since my first vote didn't stick for some reason

edith, why would you vote for courage if you didn't think he was scum? Isn't that our purpose, as villagers - to lynch scum?

I'm trying to be fair here, but if there is another reason for your vote, I didn't catch it. Truth be told, I didn't catch a reason for your vote at all. Just you voting, Jon and the Bard calling you out on it, you disappearing (not responding to their accusations), the whole thing forgotten about, then you showing up and voting for someone else.

[Agnes The Orphan]

Lady Elizabeth, your posts have been ridiculous lately. First, if we don't lynch Muriel there is no way the wolves will eat her - she's far too heavily suspected. Second, a modkill is not good for us, its better then having tp lynch her, but much worse then her returning. I do agree that we should stave off a lynch till we see if she comes back though. Finally, I really dislike you're flip flopping between votes lately.
I actually find Know-Nothing Jon's recent play rather villagery lately, so unvote.
I'm not finding Sister or Slow particularly suspicious either, but then, I'm no-one particularly stands out at all.

I think Friar Andrews is my strongest suspicion currently, given the lack of actual content in posts, overly defensive play, and not really contributing to the village at all. Also, if I'm honest, the lack of stronger tells.
Fake-edit: wow, that train exploded quickly.

[Lady Elizabeth]

Lady Elizabeth, your posts have been ridiculous lately. First, if we don't lynch Muriel there is no way the wolves will eat her - she's far too heavily suspected. Second, a modkill is not good for us, its better then having tp lynch her, but much worse then her returning. I do agree that we should stave off a lynch till we see if she comes back though. Finally, I really dislike you're flip flopping between votes lately.

I'm talking about simple Anne, not Muriel, about going for a modkill.

[Know-Nothing Jon]

Ok, admittedly there's not much content from Young Will when I reexamine it. I think in my mind I may actually have been attributing some of Scarlet John's posts to him. He still doesn't feel very scummy, though.

[Lady Elizabeth]

less than an hour left

[Doctor Saul]

I hope you guys are right on the Friar. I would rather see Muriel go today. Just too much exaggeration from her today, she doesn't feel right. And lashing out at people who accuse her like a cornered animal.

[Lady Elizabeth]

I hope you guys are right on the Friar. I would rather see Muriel go today. Just too much exaggeration from her today, she doesn't feel right. And lashing out at people who accuse her like a cornered animal.

I think Muriel still has the lead.

[Fat Rose]

Current tally (unofficial)

7- Muriel the Slow: Doctor Saul, Old Tom, Sir Percival, Half-Nose Harry, Sister Mary, Friar Andrew, Rob the Filch
6- Friar Andrew: Scarlet John, Bert the Bard, Lady Elizabeth, Know-Nothing Jon, Widow Edith, Agnes the Orphan
2- Sister Mary: Short Richard, Muriel the Slow
1- Know-Nothing Jon: Kate the Waif
1- Old Tom: , Fat Rose
1- Lady Elizabeth: Easy Sarah
1- Widow Edith: Young Will


Not voting: Simple Anne

[Fat Rose]

Ok, so I guess with 45 minutes remaining I should not expect that Old Tom will get any more votes - or is anyone interested to join me on him? Case in a nutshell: Isn't contributing and trying to cruise by with short one-line accusations that he himself can't provide any grounds for.