WW38: The Story of the Stories

[pindicator]

This deadline is awful for me. Is 9am local time and work starts at 8:30 (today is a meeting at 8). Just skimmed the overnight stuff but I'm out the door.
AdrienIer posting on second thought is like someone trying to dig up dirt. Gets a pass for now.

Shadeun. Maybe the joke vote hit true? Don't like his posts

[Rowain]

Hm has Holden caught something?

Shadeun

[Shadeun]

We can at least focus the randomness towards people who have demonstrated a lack of interest in the general progress of the game with egregious lurking. Better than going full random and hitting someone who'd help substantially in later deduction

Why, in your own words Mattimeo do you not deserve to have the same pressure applied to you? You have 3 posts so far, the least of anyone (though admittedly quality was good, as usual). There is an unsual lack of pressure being applied to you by some (Lewwyn). I suppose you haven't had any votes for you so far (that I can see) but the lack of need to defend yourself isn't exactly a reason to disengage!

Additionally, dont believe in Molach/Moses immune claim - would be weird. Scummy.
Jowy & Ichibod did little but respond to their initial pressure late (which i suppose is what you do) and then Jowy diverting with discussions on post restrictions.

Again, I'm happy to switch and would like more discussion!

I read Meiz's posts and didn't see much but will take a fresh view near lunch.

meta: I'll be around tonight for the vote (I THINK, but will be packing) and then flying most of tomorrow/thursday to 'Straya.

Holy crap, this is all sorts of phony. Like those bores that get up in class just to point out to the teacher and the class that they read this and that book, when in fact they didn't understand shit about it, they just read them so they could look like a smartass to everyone else. You just said a lot of things that appear content, but this whole post is incredibly empty, really. And what's with the vote on Mattimeo, that has quality posts, you said so yourself, only to basically say below that you want to switch of him?

And no one's voting for this guy? People never notice anything...

Shadeun

This post you quote was ages ago. I was referencing Matt's 4th (?) post in the game after he had used the same reason to vote for another player. I suppose we should be grateful that you have shown up and now say "this post says nothing" in a post that says nothing and then vote for me? When in fact it was a pretty legitimate point about Matt not contributing (at that point).

[Goreripper]

I see weak foolish townspeople being subtly led to lynch a clumsy innocent newbie here! Use your orbs of vision upon Shaedun's last scum thread, where he asked with caution and care, never scuttling into the burning light of day with out first seeking the oracles of his betters! He is clearly leaderless and a scapegoat used to save the firey eyed prophet of schemes!

[Ichabod]

Forgot to include Rowain, who also seems like his town-self.

Shadeun, as you state Mattimeo as a lurker, but also don't see much from me, why the strong preference to vote Matt?

Good point. There just hadn't been a single vote for Matt at that point and wanted to just investigate so we have more to go on later. Seems strange for Matt (who in my one other game was pretty aggressive in scum hunting, though scum himself) to make that point and do little talking themselves.

re: you Meiz. I very well may vote for you later, I wish to evaluate Gringrs "read the 8 posts Meiz has made" comment from a few pages back.

I will probably have a list of 4-5 and then vote for the person with the highest influence score of those today.

re: you Meiz. I very well may vote for you later, I wish to evaluate Gringrs "read the 8 posts Meiz has made" comment from a few pages back.

You keep making these little minor errors that make me wonder if you're actually just skimming the thread.

Shadeun, how come you dismissed influence here:

Matt: yes they noted the content of Meiz's posts but not YOURS. Yes, Lewwyn's point, and not Gringr's. I have made a little mistake there (which is why that wasn't my main point and I'm going back to read Meiz's posts.

Gazglum: yes I was just thinking on that influence scores are random and therefore not really useful. On rereading I realise that if you think 2 people are wolves (or guessing) then its best to try and get the highest influence person out.

Matt: you again default to insulting my intelligence when (as we discussed previous game) when we (in fact) think the same thing. I will come with a list of 4-5, maybe less and then (as a tie breaker, which i should've made clear) probably go for the highest influence person.

Probably should've made my change in mind on influence a bit clearer I suppose.

My opinion (from the first game) still remains that its probably difficult to do better than a short list on the first day and then HAVING the influence scores we have a clear way to break ties. Obiviously, as someone with a fairly high influence score myself (4) this position could bite me in the ass. But I am town/"win with the innocents" (as you will see) so hopefully can contribute to the win.

FWIW: I have a fairly strong power for night use, but not one that can be used to determine actions (not a seer or whatever you call it).

Interesting that I probably should've deduced there were neighbours because my PM refers to me winning with town but being 'alone with my own mind'. So perhaps the allocation of neighbours happened after powers were assigned and hence I have the multiple personality disorder roleplay included in mine.

What's with the preemptive claiming (bolded)? Why would you say that out of nowhere? Probably just to show off, because it doesn't help in any way. Phony again.

[Rowain]

I see weak foolish townspeople being subtly led to lynch a clumsy innocent newbie here! Use your orbs of vision upon Shaedun's last scum thread, where he asked with caution and care, never scuttling into the burning light of day with out first seeking the oracles of his betters! He is clearly leaderless and a scapegoat used to save the firey eyed prophet of schemes!

You seem quite sure that Moses is a false prophet.

Whom do you see as his scumbuddies if he turns out to be scum?

and what will be your actions if he turns out to be truly an innocent man?

[Meiz]

Fuck it, I've got no patience to wait for the detectives opinion.

I'm a detective too, you know! Anyway, I agree with Zak that Gazglum's town read on you isn't particularly suspect. In fact I agree with Gazglum's town read.

Sorry, didn't notice you were playing.

I am still liking Fenn as a lynch for his overall low profile, weak pressure votes, and lack of meaningful contributions. Like I said before, I think it matches his wolf play from the last game. Obviously not a strong suspicion but it's a scum lean.

Yeah I think Fenn is a decent lynch and also an influential one. I haven't seen anything to push me off my AdrienIer hunch though. I'd be happy with either lynch I suppose.

To be brutally honest I do not trust the hunch you have for Adrien.

Missed drone game, but in. this case I would be one of three drones, so not really an analogy.

Three drones where all town so I don't see why three neighbors couldn't be all town especially with Brick running the game.

I see weak foolish townspeople being subtly led to lynch a clumsy innocent newbie here! Use your orbs of vision upon Shaedun's last scum thread, where he asked with caution and care, never scuttling into the burning light of day with out first seeking the oracles of his betters! He is clearly leaderless and a scapegoat used to save the firey eyed prophet of schemes!

Finally we agree!

Ichabod did you roll scum?

[Goreripper]

I see weak foolish townspeople being subtly led to lynch a clumsy innocent newbie here! Use your orbs of vision upon Shaedun's last scum thread, where he asked with caution and care, never scuttling into the burning light of day with out first seeking the oracles of his betters! He is clearly leaderless and a scapegoat used to save the firey eyed prophet of schemes!

You seem quite sure that Moses is a false prophet.

Whom do you see as his scumbuddies if he turns out to be scum?

I throw myself headlong into the heaving bosom of confirmation bias without regret! I am not certain at all, in this dark and convoluted town of lies and dispassion, of who is a schemer. But this Shaedun is a clear patsy!

Holden or you may well be trying save this Molach from an exsanguinating fate.

and what will be your actions if he turns out to be truly an innocent man?

Defend my self from your relentless and vile attacks for the next few weeks!

[Shadeun]

What's with the preemptive claiming (bolded)? Why would you say that out of nowhere? Probably just to show off, because it doesn't help in any way. Phony again.

So 2 of the 3 points were me responding to questions that were asked of me. I claimed to have a bit of cover (and posted more also) because I am on the plane tomorrow (for 24 hours) and wanted there to be more info out on me.

Also, I eventually came good on Meiz and then (seemed) to kick off the move away from him.

I thought my stuff had no content? You seem to reason quite weakly here.

[Goreripper]

Whom do you see as his scumbuddies if he turns out to be scum?

The wench who is following me has clear motives but I have doubts about the flash-haired warrior! He has hedged him self to jump on the patsy as well if he feels within his breating breast the need to escape the murder of his compatriot.