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One suggestion for the screenshots, either press P (ping) or ALT+S (sign) when you're highlighting the tile. It makes it evident in the screenshot which tile your mouse was hovering over since your mouse doesn't make it into the screenshot.
Should someone make odds on if/where Adios Really, Goodbye Sabata will be resettled?
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(March 12th, 2015, 15:31)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: One suggestion for the screenshots, either press P (ping) or ALT+S (sign) when you're highlighting the tile. It makes it evident in the screenshot which tile your mouse was hovering over since your mouse doesn't make it into the screenshot.
Should someone make odds on if/where Adios Really, Goodbye Sabata will be resettled? That makes sense, especially if I'm not going to get around to making my compilation pictures--until then, these pictures generally went left->right. Thanks for letting me know commands I'm not as familiar with
It's going back to the original spot, 1S of Adios Sabata, I can just feel it--of course, if my settler can get there in time it won't
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T146: I got peace, and thus the three-way turn split didn't last that long--let's see how the foreign situation looks now:
The main wars appear to still be going on--unfortunately, I still don't have contact with Elum yet (I sent a spare warrior over there a while ago, but it still has ~15 turns left I think), but obviously the Adrien/johns war is the most important one at the moment. However, as I move onto Guilds and start building Knights, I think my next target moves to Whosit--though if johns continues to ignore Mysticism (and thus Feudalism), I might have to attack him since he won't have longbows for a while. Speaking of techs, let's check in on them:
(Grimace's scrollbar hides Engineering)
Not much new here--I'm glad that I'm only down a couple religious techs and Whosit's Music beeline. Importantly, no one else has Paper yet, which means that I have a pretty clear path to Liberalism if I want it. The question is whether I want to head for Printing Press or Engineering first. Obviously I want to head to Engineering first if I need better military, both for the road movement bonus and my UU Pikes (though I don't know how good they are--obviously they're good against Maces, and you want them for defense against Knights and Elephants, but they aren't that good against defending Longbows). The question is which is better for economic purposes: Printing Press or Education? Education feels like it's better once you get Universities down (not even mentioning Oxford), but I don't know if I can afford the time to build all those Universities while pumping out a bunch of Knights. Maybe that's a reason to sidestep the issue and go for Engineering (and maybe fitting in a Mediation 1T backfill somewhere in there).
Next, let's do a domestic overview, now that we're at peace again:
Not much new here--the settler will complete at end of turn, and it actually settles Sabata on T148--I like being able to 2T Settlers in my capital
I also have a decent amount of worker labor for the first time in a while--not only do I have to make a bunch of cottages at Regensburg, I also have two more cottages I've put off for a while at Augburg. I also can build that fort at Vienna if I want, though it's not strictly necessary if I get the Sabata site (I still might build it anyway, since 8 worker turns and 30 hammers from Vienna are less valuable than the 30 hammers from the new city), as well as the one grassland farm left in the north. Finally, since the Adrien border appears to be friendly, I can finish up improvements at Strassburg--I've thought about fort-ing the hill north of Strassburg to make another canal, but I don't know if you can canal a hill with a fort.
Next, let's do some stats checking:
Holy crap--if we assume that's johns's power ranking in first, he's recovered a lot of it already through his whips. No clue where a lot of it is though--I highlighted a couple stacks in the generic folders, but it's mainly just stuff heading for Adrien it appears. I hopefully will get to see some of it though--I finally finished that spy I mentioned before last turn, and it's heading into johns's territory now. When I do find those cities, will they reveal themselves right away if I have enough espionage points (assuming they aren't drastically more--the only city I know of and don't have visibility on is his island city), will I have to wait until the turn rolls, or do I need to start building espionage from scratch? (I hope it's not the last one )
Speaking of espionage, I've moved the majority of it to Whosit, so I can get the insanely useful city visibility there as well--are there any tricks to espionage that I'm missing at this point? It certainly isn't worth it to do active espionage, right, especially I don't have more espionage buildings and am not running the slider? Will I ever want to run the slider, especially with all the espionage nerfs in RtR mod?
Rest of the pictures are in the folder, but there aren't that many this time--certainly not the ~30 I was taking per turn when I need to keep track of troop movements
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Not much new today for T147, at least for me--however, the foreign situation is more interesting. Elum is attacking Grimace now (is he dead already? He's in a 2v1 and is behind in city/pop count), and I caught a glimpse of johns's doom stack:
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T148 and T149 are both pretty boring. I should be getting visibility on most of Whosit's core/mainland next turn, so I'll stitch together something for that probably--anything else people want to see, since T150 is kinda a milestone turn?
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I really wish I had more to say about T150 and T151--all the interesting stuff is going on around me instead of to me :/
I feel guilty about leaving the thread without updates for 4 days, so I'll post something at least:
Right now my main goal is to build Knights and try to attack right away at one of four locations: the johns cities of Johnny Oro or Cera una Volta (johns's SE city--I haven't mentioned it much, but it can be ambushed) and the Whosit cities of Giffany and Toby Determined. The only question is when I'll get enough Knights to attack one or both of one civ's cities--one option I have to expedite that process is to upgrade a bunch of my big Chariot stack, is that a good idea? My gut says not, but I don't know how worth it getting my attack started more quickly is.
The big news is all the fighting that's going on in the johns/Adrien war--these demos are from early in the turn, before either Adrien or johns had moved, and not only have both sides done a ton of whips, johns actually took two cities this turn! Is it worth it to try and fight Adrien and snipe a border city or two? I know that's commonplace in the PB18 wars happening around me (though it hasn't happened to me yet ), but I like my international trade routes
Speaking of trade routes, who else should I open borders with? Right now I just have open borders with ipecac and Adrien, and have been keeping johns and Whosit out because of the obvious intel implications. I would sign with Grimace as well, but I don't know if that would actually do anything (since I don't have a clear route to him I think, unless you can get to him via ipecac). Elum's the big wildcard of course, and I don't want to propel him unless he fell behind in tech due to all his wonder-chasing.
Rest of the pics in the folders above--I have a bunch of pictures from Whosit in the T150 folder, and lots of relevant border city pictures in the T151 folder.
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Yes, I'm falling behind-- T152, T153, T154, and T155 are all backlogged, and you aren't getting a full report for this turn either since nothing much has changed on my end--but there's an important update internationally: Elum built Taj Mahal!
I mean, even if we assume that he just got Nationalism and saved an Engineer (likely from Pyramids) for it, that's still farther up the tech tree than I thought Elum would be. I'm assuming Representation is playing a large part in that, though I don't know which wonders he has off the top of my head besides that (though I know he doesn't have MoM thankfully). The other question is whether he went straight there or got it off Liberalism--hopefully I'll have contact before I start Liberalism so I can check his techs
Other than that, not much has changed--I'm hoping I can hit the timing right so I can attack Whosit before he gets to Feudalism and Longbows. Again, is it worth it to start upgrading my Chariots so I can almost certainly get the attack in at the cost of my tech rate? I'd appreciate at least a little guidance, especially as it appears that Elum is farther ahead than I thought.
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Check Civstats. If Elum got a big score increase during the turn that would be him taking Nationalism with the free tech from Liberalism. If the only score increase (excluding city captures) was as the turn rolled then he researched Nationalism directly.
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What are you war objectives/plan? How do you think your victim(s) will respond?
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Crap--I didn't pull the trigger on this fast enough, and since ipecac did 7 whips last turn, I can't see Elum's start of turn. Oh well, I'll get contact with him soon enough :/
Right now the plan is to just take (or even burn) those one or two cities, assuming Whosit will rush backup quickly, then get straight peace. The problem is that I don't know if Whosit will make that peace--johns constantly making quick peace seems like it could be an aberration. I could go back to the johns well, but he's piling up troops in his easily-accessible border cities and I don't think taking one of those would be worth it.
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