WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Catwalk]

I can get behind a Molach vote (nice quote), but still prefer Azza for aforementioned reasons. I think yesterday's voting suggests that at least one wolf was at serious risk of hanging, leading to wolves throwing a smoke bomb in there to obfuscate things. I'm guessing that was either Selrahc or Azza, with more pressure being put on Azza (IMO).

[novice]

I can get behind a Molach vote (nice quote), but still prefer Azza for aforementioned reasons. I think yesterday's voting suggests that at least one wolf was at serious risk of hanging, leading to wolves throwing a smoke bomb in there to obfuscate things. I'm guessing that was either Selrahc or Azza, with more pressure being put on Azza (IMO).

What's your take on Azza defending Tasunke by pointing out his contributions to the Mattimeo case?

[Catwalk]

I think I commented on that earlier. I think it was a free lunch:
1) There was a lot of suspicion on Tasunke already (his files didn't help him any), he was unlikely to sway people
2) Azza hasn't had a lot of pull this game due to his early lurkishness, also making him unlikely to sway people

It can definitely be a good villager play (I think his observation was correct), and it can just as easily be a wolf seeking town cred with a cheat sheet to help him. I'm leaning towards the latter, but don't see it pushing his alignment strongly to one side or the other.

[novice]

But he didn't really post it in a setting asking for village cred - he didn't go "guys, let's not lynch Tasunke, he's clearly innocent". He just referred to it in passing while explaining his suspects, saying he had considered voting Tasunke until he read that post. I think if a wolf is going to point out that town tell on Tasunke he'll do it a bit louder and more noticeable.

[Catwalk]

Possibly. But given that everybody else felt differently about Tasunke, drawing too much attention to it could be risky (if he did indeed operate based on a cheat sheet).

[waterbat]

I'm strongly in agreement with catwalk. Azza's seemed to have genuinely angry reactions, but apart from them, I can't find the village undercurrent.

@novice: I also love the vote on molach. He's screaming lurker-fiend to me but I'm burned from ww14 as you referenced. Speaking of that reference, I admit I am more laid back because a) we haven't lost yet, I am an optimist and b) I hadn't just worked unsuccessfully for hours to get others to see my view. My vote ended up on the innocent even after I made a clear post referencing selrahc and Meiz as my targets. I just was way too eager at the end. It was my fault.

@gaspar: I began the game with the feeling I was still in the lynchbait phase of my WW development. That's why the absence of pressure has surprised me. I do also nod while reading your approaches. I think we share the same alignment ( hint: we're mindworms! )

@village: I know people will jump on me for this, but if any of you have some additional power roles that could contribute good info to the village, it might be good to start revealing your results. I imagine 6 nights is a lot of good data. If you are holding out, i assume you all are setting up elaborate traps for scum. While I'm ok with that to a point, I don't want us to get to LyLo if we can help it. I'm not calling for mass reveal - just please evaluate whether your results might help more if revealed now.

@village:

Yea, thou I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for thou art with me; Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.*


*especially now that novice is on me - no way I'm night killed, right?

[pindicator]

Novice, i'm gonna let you hold down the molach wagon for a bit. I want to give lewwyn a shot: Ichabod

@waterbat- if you like both those cases why not join one? I guess i find your support but no vote and not bringing forth an argument of your own an odd post

[waterbat]

Truly meant to vote azza. Such a long phone post, forgot by the end. azza. Also I wouldn't call the molach vote by a case. For me it's a strong feeling. Catwalk though makes a case.

[Gaspar]

GG Injera, and well played again to Rowain.

Going to go do the research I suggested re: Merovech, Tasunke, and Qgqqqqq. Will vote after.

[Azza]

Right now, there are two potential lunches Id be most in favour of, Meiz and waterbat. A meiz lynch would be the more revealing of the two, but Im less confident he's scum.

I'm strongly in favour of a potential waterbat lynch for the following reasons. Firstly, the tone in his posts has often felt a little off, a notable example being his initial post in the thread where he declared in all caps that he was a villager. Secondly, he seems to have a tendency to turn up at important moments and tries to influence them. I recall thinking his contribution just before the merovech deadline was really weird, which almost dissuaded me from changing my vote. Thirdly, his recent call for all power roles to declare themselves feels really scum. The mafia have just run out of power roles to lynch without any scrutiny, why give them fresh targets? Furthermore, Im sure the villagers who have power roles, if there are any left, will reveal when theyve learned something that gives us a wolf. It'd be silly to learn of a wolf and not share your knowledge.

Also, Id be happy to lynch Catwalk, mostly for revenge, but also because it strikes me as being a bit weird that he'd go through the first few days without a single original thought, and ever since has just latched onto me and hasn't let go. I think he could be playing a very good game as mafia.