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Hello!
PhoenixCull is by far our best player, he probably has the most insight into the game, ask him for refined strategies.
Myself I'll just say that you should prioritize hoarding as much gold as possible by last hitting and once you got that mechanic down then you're fine.
Learn one of each role and learn what all the heroes do (you don't really need to know the numbers, but knowing, say, Renekton's skillset and that he deals a lot of damage at level 1 is helpful)
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Seyruun's sarcasm is too strong.
They are usually a bunch of us playing in the afternoon EDT. Add me(PhoenixCull in-game) and I'll invite you to play some games.
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kayapo Wrote:I finally got into a real game, as scared as I could be.
My first game was a outstanding sucess. 29 kills 0 deaths. I farmed more then twice the amount of gold then anybody else and got 50 more minion kills then second place.
Wow, that's so incredible from someones first game that I have to question whether it really is your first time playing. Either way I assume since you said 'real' game you meant you played vs people and not bots?
Also while Heimerdinger is quite newbie friendly, he is less effective the better the opponents are so if you're serious about playing LoL and want to get to level 30 etc, then Heimer is not the best choice long term. But hey if you have fun with him then by all means keep playing him.
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Dantski Wrote:Also while Heimerdinger is quite newbie friendly, he is less effective the better the opponents are so if you're serious about playing LoL and want to get to level 30 etc, then Heimer is not the best choice long term. But hey if you have fun with him then by all means keep playing him.
Keep in mind though that there are no champions that are incapable of reaching a high individual ELO and winning/carrying games, although with some it's harder and some are broken to the point of being barely playable (Evelynn at the moment). Heimerdinger is on the lower end of power spectrum and he is not very popular, but he has some very cool niches that make him a viable choice (he is a great pusher, hard to gank, has great poke). He's also, IMHO, better as a choice in arranged teams rather than solo queue games.
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Deceptus Wrote:Myself I'll just say that you should prioritize hoarding as much gold as possible by last hitting and once you got that mechanic down then you're fine. This is definitely a good first step for him. Try to practice lasthitting in your custom games with champions like Annie and Ashe in mid lane and see how fast you rack up 100 creeps. If you don't know what lasthitting is, this tutorial video should help.
Dantski Wrote:Also while Heimerdinger is quite newbie friendly, he is less effective the better the opponents are so if you're serious about playing LoL and want to get to level 30 etc, then Heimer is not the best choice long term. But hey if you have fun with him then by all means keep playing him. Yeah, Heimer is the kind of champion you play for fun and not as much for serious gameplay. He definitely doesn't encourage much with lasthitting as the turrets already farm for you.
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Playing with Cull is instant hilarity though.
Most of the time at least.
We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing. - George Bernard Shaw
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Dantski Wrote:Wow, that's so incredible from someones first game that I have to question whether it really is your first time playing. Either way I assume since you said 'real' game you meant you played vs people and not bots?
Also while Heimerdinger is quite newbie friendly, he is less effective the better the opponents are so if you're serious about playing LoL and want to get to level 30 etc, then Heimer is not the best choice long term. But hey if you have fun with him then by all means keep playing him.
Indeed, surprising result for me too. I have no ilusions though, combination of begginer`s luck with being paired with people without a clue (more then me).
Yeah, i played 2 custom games with Heimerdinger to get used to the skills and the general playstyle did feel very friendly to noobs.
Also I watched a few movies from Sulla`s site and read all the begginer tips and "must know`s". I could see from their behaviour that the rest of my opponents and teamates had not done that or didn`t care too much.
I didn`t jump towers, i didn`t overcommit, I lanned and farmed the best I could....you know...all those little things that people say you shouldn`t do...i tried not doing =).
Focusing on the simple is my motto right now. I know I have to buy wards, and be better about picking items, but that is just something for the future, it will have to wait, right now I`m too worried about doing the core things correctly.
My game count now is 3. That first which was a success and a win.
My second one was awfull. 3 of my 5 teamates went AFK. I finished 3/3/1 and the game was quick since it was 5 against 2.
My third game was a frustrating loss, i did 20/4/8. We had 1 AFKer but we could have won with a little coordination. I actualy tried to group up for the team fight phase but 2 of my teamates were bound to farm till level 18 =).
Thanks Cull for the offer, I`m looking forward to being able to coordinate something, if you guys have a open noob match or something :neenernee
I did 2 other custom games, one with Mundo (free to play) and 1 with Ashe (which I bought thinking it was a good choice for a noob).
This is my main doubt right now (Oh...i have others...), I`m not sure which champion to get. I see Heimerdinger won`t be available too long. I tried mundo to see the tank style, but it`s my impression that a "ranged" champion is better to start with. It`s also my impression that champions with very low health, are also not noob friendly (for obvious reasons).
EDIT- Begginer`s luck strikes again. My fourth game 36/0/6. Honestly people just feed themselves to me all day. I was level 18 fighting against 11ish because they just ran into me.
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Ashe is actually a pretty good starter hero because her skill set isn't too complicated. That in turn lets you focus on stuff like positioning, last-hitting and map awareness, and in the current meta you're usually in the bottom lane with someone else who can support you along.
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Ashe is not for beginners. She has no innate escape or reposition nor strong steriod. Her full potential is reached upon being able to hit a 50-70 second cooldown skillshot ulti. Admittedly, she plays like any other ranged dps past 30 minutes. This probably doesn't apply to kayapo, but the fact that Ashe's ulti is based off AP is kinda confusing to new players, similar to if someone learned Ryze and tried to play a different mage.
I would say, based on IP cost, Sivir would be your best choice. Her skillset makes more sense, with a skillshot high damage, high mana nuke, an AD steriod that teaches you the importance of resetting your autos which leads to attack move/cancel animation fun later on, a spellshield that teaches reaction time, and an escape/intiate ghost-like ulti, which is amazing in low level games, as well as teaching the importance of engage and disengage while being easy to use. Sivir also has a far easier laning phase and auto animation, although the later is just my personal preference.
I recommend getting the free trist/ali from facebook/youtube, although learning how to effectively all-in as Trist and hitting the ali combo(headbutt->knockup, before headbut animation fully casts) will take a few games. Also, I'm going out today so not going to be online until late night EDT. Maybe try to do something tomorrow.
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Tristanna is nice because a)she's free, b)she has an innate escape with her jump c)she's really good late game what is most low level games end up at.
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