May 7th, 2013, 10:51
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Quote:Hi Caledorn,
We'll want the marble at a later date before T150. Too busy drafting now.
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Quote:Hi Caledorn,
we have no need for marble currently, but assume from your offer that you are are willing to ship marble for 10t from anytime we choose.
Regards,
RB
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(May 7th, 2013, 10:01)Ellimist Wrote: Quote:I still believe they're trying to see if they can get away with this, but fewer words may be better here.
Yes, so change the status quo.
Quote:Caledorn,
When we want your marble, we'll ask for it.
RB
 This cannot be mistaken for anything that it is not. It shows our impatience with their team and clearly states that we decline their offer of marble. Further, it states that we will make our need for marble known when we need it. They must be aware that we will need marble within the next ~15 turns, per our agreement.
(May 7th, 2013, 10:51)antisocialmunky Wrote: Quote:Hi Caledorn,
We'll want the marble at a later date before T150. Too busy drafting now.
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 I love this, but I don't think that's the best use of diplomacy. I prefer Ellimist's draft on grounds of diplomatic effectiveness. This gets my vote for most aesthetically pleasing.
(May 7th, 2013, 10:53)kjn Wrote: Quote:Hi Caledorn,
we have no need for marble currently, but assume from your offer that you are are willing to ship marble for 10t from anytime we choose.
Regards,
RB
 Don't assume anything with them. State plainly what we expect of the offer and let them put it out in the open if they disagree. Again, we must speak plainly to CFC lest they twist our words to suit their own purpose.
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I don't understand why we would intentionally delay our response once it's ready. Us being prompter in response doesn't concede anything and only reinforces that we have things more together as a team than they do and maintains, however slightly, the higher road. I agree there is no rush to get a message out if we aren't comfortable. But once we have it settled, I don't see any need to wait just to make them wait.
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In my opinion the rationale for waiting on delivering the answer is that we'd like them to see us start drafting first. The hope is that they would come back trying to appease us somehow. Whether this will happen we don't know of course.
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May 7th, 2013, 12:03
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(May 7th, 2013, 11:48)dazedroyalty Wrote: I don't understand why we would intentionally delay our response once it's ready. Us being prompter in response doesn't concede anything and only reinforces that we have things more together as a team than they do and maintains, however slightly, the higher road. I agree there is no rush to get a message out if we aren't comfortable. But once we have it settled, I don't see any need to wait just to make them wait.
I'm not suggesting that really. I'm just saying I've seen a few suggestions that we need to halt discussion so we can rush this message out the door. I don't think that's necessary. Even our "slow" responses (like maybe this one) tends to be significantly faster than just about any other team it seems. So if we need to take our time here to get it right, that's perfectly fine IMO.
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(May 7th, 2013, 11:52)kalin Wrote: In my opinion the rationale for waiting on delivering the answer is that we'd like them to see us start drafting first. The hope is that they would come back trying to appease us somehow. Whether this will happen we don't know of course.
Kalin
This is a good point. I concede that we likely will send a message of some sort, though my personal preference is to ignore the trolling message from CFC. That said, please make the message short, direct, and brusque. No flattery or niceties. Just the facts. I'm thinking write it as though it were written by Noble. 
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Maybe we should have Noble post a draft in here 
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Why not Locke? Though he'd be just as likely berate us as CFC. LOL.
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Anyway, the turn rolled, and I agreed to the map trade with the Germans.
Reasons?
Our maps are already out there, and the Germans has sent some scouting units into our lands already.
Declining map trade could alarm them, if done without a clear reason.
Possibility to scout the arctic islands more efficiently.
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