WW8: Madness in Outer Space (game thread - players only)

[Erebus]

Yesterday I was tempted to switch my vote from Catwalk to Sareln, but that would have taken the vote at the time from 3-3 (Catwalk, myself) to 3-2-2 (Catwalk, myself, Sareln). I was afraid of going 3 to 4 to 5 while I slept. But apparently a bandwagon on Bob came out of nowhere.

That bandwagon seemingly created from the ether. I still don't even know why he was lynched, I thought Sareln and Catwalk were much better targets, and next thing that I know Bob is dead.

At first I thought Lewwyn was in fact scum, but I actually believe his drunken posts were legit, and if they are, he reads village.

Catwalk's role claim seemed badly time. He has Serdoa's power but only 10 times better? (The attacker gets the wound making their identity obvious, vs. the defender getting the wound). It's easy for Scum to role-claim "I protected Rowain, but he didn't get attack" seconds before the attack comes. Also posted after the scheduled night end time before the attack comes seems to be a bit foreshadowing unless you KNEW you weren't dead.

I believed Sareln yesterday, believing he was shell shocked by how fast Winston died after his 4th vote, but not to the point of not voting at all. He seemed to be playing up his sympathy.

Sareln is the easy save me vote, so instead I'm going with Catwalk

[Rowain]

I do agree with uberfish and novce except the part where he puts me in top-suspect list.

[Sareln]

I am inclined to believe Catwalk innocent because of the symmetry of the roles and the opportunity for wounding, it seems that Zakalwe has put in a lot of opportunities for people to pick up wounds. Perhaps hoping that Winston's other half wouldn't be left out in the cold if either of them went down early. That and role-claiming right before killing someone is a pretty unnecessary risk for SCUM.

@ Lewwyn

Both of the final lynches so far have occurred before I could possibly react to them (Serdoa snipes Winston a minute after I cast my vote, and you lynch Bob while I sleep). Given that, of course most of my posts are going to be "after" lynches by definition

Who's Left?

• Rowain ~ Healer ability + SCUM is plausible but seems unlikely to me. Meta-instinct leads me to think innocent.
  
• Novice ~ Still speaking sense
  
• Catwalk ~ Perhaps Innocent, depending upon Meta.
  
• Lewwyn ~ Erratic, Suspicious to me. Dunno what to think about Drunk-Posting. I think he's trying too hard after me to be honest.
  
• Uberfish ~ Interesting idea, not sure what it gets you other than me guessing my hunch
  
• Sareln ~ Me
  
• Erebus ~ Hard to read for me, suspicious on that count.
  

I'm actually going to vote Erebus, not Lewwyn.

Lewwyn is objectively more suspicious to me, but I feel that may be his accusations coloring my feelings about him. Combined with this being a similar play* he tried in the last WW Game with me, and I'm more inclined to let it slide as just an aggressive villager.

*Try to get a rise out of me, I guess that's how he figures I'm a villager, if I react emotionally over this text-based forum?

[Sareln]

Yesterday I was tempted to switch my vote from Catwalk to Sareln, but that would have taken the vote at the time from 3-3 (Catwalk, myself) to 3-2-2 (Catwalk, myself, Sareln). I was afraid of going 3 to 4 to 5 while I slept. But apparently a bandwagon on Bob came out of nowhere.

That bandwagon seemingly created from the ether. I still don't even know why he was lynched, I thought Sareln and Catwalk were much better targets, and next thing that I know Bob is dead.

At first I thought Lewwyn was in fact scum, but I actually believe his drunken posts were legit, and if they are, he reads village.

Catwalk's role claim seemed badly time. He has Serdoa's power but only 10 times better? (The attacker gets the wound making their identity obvious, vs. the defender getting the wound). It's easy for Scum to role-claim "I protected Rowain, but he didn't get attack" seconds before the attack comes. Also posted after the scheduled night end time before the attack comes seems to be a bit foreshadowing unless you KNEW you weren't dead.

I believed Sareln yesterday, believing he was shell shocked by how fast Winston died after his 4th vote, but not to the point of not voting at all. He seemed to be playing up his sympathy.

Sareln is the easy save me vote, so instead I'm going with Catwalk

Erebus, you're misreading Catwalk's description of his power. The person he defended takes the wound, not the person attacking the person he's defending.

[Rowain]

Catwalk's role claim seemed badly time. He has Serdoa's power but only 10 times better? (The attacker gets the wound making their identity obvious, vs. the defender getting the wound).

I read his ability as the target gets wounded (ie the one protected) instead of the protector.


On Bob after parking my vote for the night: 6 hours later Lewwyn and novice have joined me. then lewwyn moved to Catwalk. And then 9 hours later within 20 minutes catwalk, uberfish and Lewwyn sealed his fate.

[zakalwe]

Official Tally - Day 3 - 7 alive - 4 to lynch

1: Catwalk (Erebus)
1: Erebus (Sareln)

Not voting: Rowain, Novice, Catwalk, Lewwyn, Uberfish

[Catwalk]

While some will jump all over me for making this suggestion, I think it'd be a good idea for Erebus and Sareln to reveal their powers if they have any they can use right away to partly establitsn't give scum nearly the same advantage as in conventional games with vanilla villagers and a few power roles. Anything that will actually help establish someone's innocence will help the town far more. Winston and Bob could have both done so if they'd been given the time. Let's not repeat that mistake. I'm very inclined to join a vote on Erebus at this point, I find it suspicious that he barely tries to defend himself when he's on everybody's suspect list. And yes, my power would have wounded Rowain if he was the target of a night kill and I protected him.

Rowain, you're correct that we don't know how many scum there are and what kind of roles they have. Why does Lewwyn's posts make you think he's possessed, though? Unless I'm mistaken, that means he wins with the scum without being one himself. He sounds more like a village idiot to me (wins if he hangs).

[Lewwyn]

Rowain, you're correct that we don't know how many scum there are and what kind of roles they have. Why does Lewwyn's posts make you think he's possessed, though? Unless I'm mistaken, that means he wins with the scum without being one himself. He sounds more like a village idiot to me (wins if he hangs).

Why can't I just be a normal villager who is in fact sometimes crazy?



On that note... We've seen Erebus and Sareln vote. What next? I still find Sareln suspicious.

[novice]

I just reread Erebus's posts, and to me he reads villager. The post below and those following that one seem especially villagerish. Why would scum get involved in such a convoluted almost-crossposted feint? If I were scum and almost lynched someone by crosspost I think I'd just keep my head down.

Whew that was close....

I almost made a post about putting Winston Hughes at 5 votes to up the drama...

But I decided that wouldn't be cool as this is Winston Hughes first game and I wouldn't want him to get lynched day 1 of a new game

Good thing I stopped and avoided the cross post with Sareln.

That changes my suspect list to Sareln, Rowain and Uberfish, with Lewwyn as runner-up.

Tough one. I'll go with Rowain for now.

[Erebus]

I went back and re-read Catwalks description and I realized I was wrong.

The reason I'm not even bothering with a heavy defense, is that I'm ALWAYS on everyone suspicious lists. Which is why I find my power so funny.

I went back and re-read it at Catwalk's reference to us revealing, and I realized I missed something, if I don't use it today, I can't use it for the rest of the game.

WW6 I had Lewwyn and Serdoa swearing they were going to lynch me.

WW7 I had Serdoa and Zakalwe teaming up to mislynch my suspicious .

And in WW8 I get a one-shot power that says "You can't be mislyched." Fitting huh?

There's draw backs though. I won't be able to post anymore, and my vote (which I realize was put up for incorrect reasons, a misread on my part) is invalidated.

So I'll have to post up my suspicious on everyone first.

Catwalk - I found his mistimed reveal to be shady, but as I said, I misread his claimed power. He tries to be analytical, but is playing a bit more closer to the chest this game as many have pointed out. He claims evolving playstyle, but it could be a SCUM role causing an unconcious change in style. Gray leaning towards Scum.

Lewwyn - I had heavy SCUM readings on him when he went after Serdoa for killing Winston, and then followed up night two by killing Bob. I think we were all ready to lynch him if not for his drunken log in last night. So either he's an extremely crafty SCUM, or another villager with an itchy trigger finger. Probably innocent.

Novice - Seems pretty obviously village, and the wound night 1 cinched it for me. If someone ended up wounded night 2, I might have doubted him, but he's been pretty much the voice of reason. Probably Innocent

Rowain - Not entirely certain why he's confirmed innocent in everyone's book. While a healing power would be unusual for a wolf/SCUM, not entirely unplausible. I think he's our deep cover wolf with Catwalk or Sareln being our more obvious suspect, I think he's worth another look. Leaning towards deep cover SCUM.

Sareln - I felt bad for him after Night 1, he seemed like he got shocked by how quickly Winston was killed by Serdoa. So I took him for a gun-shy Villager day 2, feeling that Catwalk was a better target then him. Then he refused to commit, at all. Being gun-shy is one thing, but not even voting makes me think SCUM that doesn't want another lynch kill on his record. Leaning towards SCUM.

Uberfish - Seems very calm, collected, and analyitical. Almost the opposite of last game with his claim ploy. But I don't know Uberfish that well, and that might have been a fling. Last game he was relying on the lack of Seer role, and I think this game he might be more cautious because of the unknown powers. However, he might be the deep cover SCUM instead of Rowain.

I'm leaning towards a Rowain - Catwalk combo or a Uberfish - Sareln duo. Mainly because of the way Catwalk and Rowain almost seem to have some sort of weird chemistry at times.

I know I'm not very good at expressing my thoughts in text, and something always gets lost in translation (even though I'm a native English speaker ). However, I hope this will be enough.

Now why am I using my power now? When it doesn't allow me to continue communicating or voting?

A) I have school in the morning, and I don't want to be mislynched while I'm asleep or at school.

B) I can only use my power when there are more then 7 players are alived.

C) Self-doubt tells me nothing I say will stop a mislynch (for evidence see WW7).

Good luck to you all and I hope you catch a bad-guy today.