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Selrahc Wrote:Lewwyn
In Alpha Centauri, Aliens are not possible to deal with. Short term cooperation is possible, but it will always end in blood. If Lewwyn is claiming to be an Alien, I do not trust him.
That's complete bullshit and you know it. It goes pretty much against everything that this game is set up about. Its a pretty terrible reason to vote for me, Selrahc.
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For those unaware of the fluff by the way, there are two "Progenitor" alien factions in Alpha Centauri:Alien Crossfire. The Planetary Caretakers aim to prevent anybody from achieving transcendence, to wipe out the Usurpers and to build communication pylons to take the 6th Manifold(Chiron) under the supervision of their homefleet. Humans are tools with which to achieve that ambition, and are to be wiped out once it has been achieved. Most forms of human victory are impossible in Alpha Centauri while either Progenitor Faction is still in play.
The Planetary Usurpers, led by Marr, are the other alien faction. They seek to achieve Transcendence rather than stop it, but are equally as unhelpful to humanity.
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Lewwyn Wrote:That's complete bullshit and you know it. It goes pretty much against everything that this game is set up about. Its a pretty terrible reason to vote for me, Selrahc.
Unless you had a fake name, and you've chosen to come clean in the hopes of using this exact argument, while also pulling the teeth of any name seers that humanity has. Little bit of turbulence, but removing one of the most potent potential threats to your goals.
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That is a lot more fluff oriented than I would want to see to think about voting on Lewwyn.
However, I do find it suspicious Lewwyn that you posted something big like name reveal with a stated intent to say it before the night kill, when the timestamp says that you didn't even post until 3 minutes after. That's not lynchable either, but could you spare some explanation there?
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I've had two beers, I'm playing cards with my extended family and I didn't get to the computer as fast as i would have liked.
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I mean COME ON Brick are you seriously trying to make it seem like I'm suspicious because I posted 3 minutes after 6? SERIOUSLY? THAT is what you're worried about? Just LMAO.
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Selrahc Wrote:For those unaware of the fluff by the way, there are two "Progenitor" alien factions in Alpha Centauri:Alien Crossfire. The Planetary Caretakers aim to prevent anybody from achieving transcendence, to wipe out the Usurpers and to build communication pylons to take the 6th Manifold(Chiron) under the supervision of their homefleet. Humans are tools with which to achieve that ambition, and are to be wiped out once it has been achieved. Most forms of human victory are impossible in Alpha Centauri while either Progenitor Faction is still in play.
The Planetary Usurpers, led by Marr, are the other alien faction. They seek to achieve Transcendence rather than stop it, but are equally as unhelpful to humanity.
From reading the wiki, the two alien players may be third-party factions with the lyncher role: they win if they manage to lynch the other alien. This mean Lewwyn has a different objective than us, but he isn't hostile to us. So I don't see his role as an immediate reason to lynch him. In fact it would just allow the Usurper to win.
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Thoughts-
* Why would anyone kill Catwalk? I haven't paid much/any attention to the last few games, did he get really good at WW or something? I don't think he ever indicated here that he was a particularly powerful villager, and his role sounds basically like some variety of gimped vig + protection from various forms of seer / devil. Need to reread his posts to see if he was getting on someone's case. Uh, also weird from a Planetfall standpoint to see the Good Professor having an immunity to probe teams, but that's neither here nor there :P
I am somewhat suspicious that none of the strong regular players like novice or zak died but I'm not going to vote for one of them yet just on the basis that they didn't die on the first night.
* Selrahc- I would drop the third-faction thing for now; we can look into the possibility later, but if Lewwyn is correct then the Aliens just fit into the standard 2-faction set-up. I still wouldn't be surprised if Planet was a faction, but we just killed a villager over it, and it's just bad play to immediately run down that path again. Also, what would a game even look like where we have two aliens, but both are apparently opposed to each other? Two 1-person teams? Doesn't make sense to me.
* Repeating the others- whoever here has the ability to invoke or at least discuss the UN Charter, if you can do so without bringing serious danger to the village, that would be a good idea, if we have useful abilities tied to it (or if we can use it to ban Wolf stuff).
* I assume we have a Name Seer, otherwise we'd just have to hope that Conquer Alien exposes himself by his own volition (assuming again Lew is telling the truth). If anybody else has any other similarly useful information, please post it so the Seer knows what to look for in their results.
* I'm placing my first vote on thestick, since during the night he implied that Wolves were trying to save him.
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"How the hell did an alien get past security without any noticing??", Santiago exclaimed. :mad:
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Bobchillingworth Wrote:Uh, also weird from a Planetfall standpoint to see the Good Professor having an immunity to probe teams, but that's neither here nor there :P
Exactly because Zak was weak against probe teams, building that secret project was extra important when playing him in SMAC. The association fits IMO.
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