WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[waterbat]

Ugh!! Just lost a huge post when iPhone died.

Anyway Tldr version: Meiz basically mirrors my thoughts on the situation. We have this situation where the 3 of us (pindicator, Meiz, me) are caught in the middle. We all appear to place Gaspar in our possible wolf pairs. We all appear to have written catwalk off as innocent. We are all paranoid about what happens tomorrow. So. I think we make our best cases to catwalk, but we end up having to follow his decision. It would be really sick if we were voting in a triangle. But I'm voting Gaspar.

I laid this out much better the first time.

The kill of TT was definitely aimed the it narrowing down the list of suspects, but I still contend it was an error. TT was not letting go of me and that could have translated into an easy win.

This is going to sound stupid, but I really like both of your cases. we must have Gaspar correct unless your both fingering each oth to make Gaspar seem the default choice. Or unless catwalk is bussing.

Christ there are 6 possible pairs and now I'm paranoid about all of them. Actually not paranoid about Cw-Meiz or CW-pindicator.

I'm confident though we will work this out. Meiz, pindicator, Gaspar - what do you think about making case to catwalk and then following through on his target. Ignore his current vote, we have to trust him to be open minded about this.

I suppose you all are worried about a catwalk-waterbat pairing now that I've suggested such a course of action

[Catwalk]

waterbat, I don't think killing TT was a mistake. I agree he was on to you, and he would have pushed heavily for you to hang today. I think he was killed instead of me because of this. I voiced no particular suspicions of you, and voted to hang Jkaen instead. As scum, you have to get rid of him. You can always claim it's an obvious frame attempt, giving you a shot at survival rather than having to stare down a tough-nosed TT who bites like a badger and doesn't let go.

In short, I agree with you that killing TT was a good move if you're scum and a bad move if you're not. Sometimes the most obvious explanation is the right one. I'm warming to the idea of you and Gaspar of wolves, feel free to keep trying to persuade me otherwise.

[waterbat]

Even though I expected to lose with TT in the game, I also felt like the killing of Meiz/pindicator/Gaspar would indeed narrow it down. Then I as thinking of what rediculous fake claim I could make to try to turn TT. So even though I said no hope and I would self-vote, I was still planning.

Do you not agree that the current situation is better than one in which I would have had to make such a drastic move?

[Catwalk]

That made absolutely no sense to me. Also didn't make sense to me when you said that the kill of TT was aimed at narrowing down the suspect list. Are you saying it's good TT was killed because now you're not planning on committing suicide anyway? Whether that's true or not, you completely lost me there.

[Catwalk]

To clarify, if you are indeed villager then I think you just moved far into weed territory with those posts (similar to Merovech fake claiming and Jkaen standing by while we hang him). You've been all over the place last two days, I strongly suggest getting more coherent in a hurry or you'll probably be facing a (mis)lynch.

[waterbat]

I'm not the one who posted it narrowed the list of suspects. That was pindicator.

[Catwalk]

This is what pindicator posted:

Another thought to killing TT - if wolves killed you, me, or gaspar then they would automatically narrow the field for the one of us that wasn't scum. Assuming one of us is scum. TT was the only one yesterday that had zero heat on him.

He's saying that killing anyone but TT narrows the list of suspects.

The kill of TT was definitely aimed the it narrowing down the list of suspects, but I still contend it was an error.

Typos aside, what are you saying here?

[waterbat]

What specifically is weed ? That Gaspar-pindicator, Gaspar-Meiz, Meiz-pindicator are possible pairs? That we can NOT afford to have a split vote today???

If we all trust one person ( yes it happens to be you ), in order to prevent the fracturing of votes, does it not make sense to lobby this person for our candidate, but agree to consolidate on that person?

I'm not talking about bus credit or anything out of this. We're talking about tactics.*



* yeah that's an Iverson reference.

[waterbat]

I'm agreeing with pindicators statement been on phone while walking. Got attacked by 2 small dogs and one drunk guy.

[waterbat]

We agree to consolidate on the trusted person's pick.