American Politics Discussion Thread

[Charr Babies]

Quick google search on youtuber reveals he is commonly seen as a shill for the CCP.

Listening to this, its not that he doesn't necessarily have some points, but that he blows them out of proportion. You can find plenty of these on both sides. Find some data and blow it out of context / proportion. If the video has GAME OVER for either China, US, or quite frankly any other nation, its not a good video. Easy easy red flag.

Point. Hence the "Not Quite", but those are real issues of concern. It is a slow process, until it isn't

It's like when China just ignore what we say all that time, And then finally had enough and told us in 2021, we do not qualify to speak to China from a position of strength, not for the last 20-30 years. And our politicians are still in a state of delusion talking down to China.

[Mjmd]

But are they issues of concern to the extent presented. No. If you want I could quickly go find a bunch of "GAME OVER" China videos in the same vein. Are they true? Answer is almost certainly no again.

I will also note that it isn't like the US doesn't get to / isn't doing anything about. A common error in human thinking is that the same thing will just keep going and eventually "x" thing will happen. That can either be because the logic doesn't actually follow all the way down to "x" or because the logic is assuming nothing will happen to disrupt the chain. Do you know how many times the downfall of the dollar has been predicted? Its a few time periods at this point. All I'm saying is be careful of falling for hype videos like this. Media often tries to sell fear. It sells really well. Be careful not to fall for it.

[Charr Babies]

I will also note that it isn't like the US doesn't get to / isn't doing anything about. A common error in human thinking is that the same thing will just keep going and eventually "x" thing will happen. That can either be because the logic doesn't actually follow all the way down to "x" or because the logic is assuming nothing will happen to disrupt the chain. Do you know how many times the downfall of the dollar has been predicted? Its a few time periods at this point. All I'm saying is be careful of falling for hype videos like this. Media often tries to sell fear. It sells really well. Be careful not to fall for it.

There goes your logic babble again. Anything can change. When people are making predictions, they of course have to present a chain of (possibilities) events, then their likely outcome. Not like they said the us is going down the drain for sure, no matter what. But we do have to change the course on self destruction.

[superdeath]

We are doing just fine. China cannot become as self-sufficient as the USA.

[Mjmd]

I will also note that it isn't like the US doesn't get to / isn't doing anything about. A common error in human thinking is that the same thing will just keep going and eventually "x" thing will happen. That can either be because the logic doesn't actually follow all the way down to "x" or because the logic is assuming nothing will happen to disrupt the chain. Do you know how many times the downfall of the dollar has been predicted? Its a few time periods at this point. All I'm saying is be careful of falling for hype videos like this. Media often tries to sell fear. It sells really well. Be careful not to fall for it.

There goes your logic babble again. Anything can change. When people are making predictions, they of course have to present a chain of (possibilities) events, then their likely outcome. Not like they said the us is going down the drain for sure, no matter what. But we do have to change the course on self destruction.

I'm not saying it COULDN'T happen. Reread what I wrote. I'm not even saying there aren't some relevant data there. I AM saying you just shared a video blowing those possibilities and data WAY out of proportion. I'm saying be careful. Just because something COULD happen, doesn't mean it WILL happen. I give this low odds, but not 0%. Maybe 10%? 

I'm also saying be careful of your media intake. Do some self reflection. You just shared a video with "GAME OVER" in it. I meant to mention this before but that and "CHECKMATE" just avoid those like the plague. If any youtube you watch starts posting those, stop watching them. And this goes for others when they see it for "GAME OVER CHINA". Same advice.

[superdeath]

I will also note that it isn't like the US doesn't get to / isn't doing anything about. A common error in human thinking is that the same thing will just keep going and eventually "x" thing will happen. That can either be because the logic doesn't actually follow all the way down to "x" or because the logic is assuming nothing will happen to disrupt the chain. Do you know how many times the downfall of the dollar has been predicted? Its a few time periods at this point. All I'm saying is be careful of falling for hype videos like this. Media often tries to sell fear. It sells really well. Be careful not to fall for it.

There goes your logic babble again. Anything can change. When people are making predictions, they of course have to present a chain of (possibilities) events, then their likely outcome. Not like they said the us is going down the drain for sure, no matter what. But we do have to change the course on self destruction.

I'm not saying it COULDN'T happen. Reread what I wrote. I'm not even saying there aren't some relevant data there. I AM saying you just shared a video blowing those possibilities and data WAY out of proportion. I'm saying be careful. Just because something COULD happen, doesn't mean it WILL happen. I give this low odds, but not 0%. Maybe 10%? 

I'm also saying be careful of your media intake. Do some self reflection. You just shared a video with "GAME OVER" in it. I meant to mention this before but that and "CHECKMATE" just avoid those like the plague. If any youtube you watch starts posting those, stop watching them. And this goes for others when they see it for "GAME OVER CHINA". Same advice.

Thoughts on this video?

[Charr Babies]

I will also note that it isn't like the US doesn't get to / isn't doing anything about. A common error in human thinking is that the same thing will just keep going and eventually "x" thing will happen. That can either be because the logic doesn't actually follow all the way down to "x" or because the logic is assuming nothing will happen to disrupt the chain. Do you know how many times the downfall of the dollar has been predicted? Its a few time periods at this point. All I'm saying is be careful of falling for hype videos like this. Media often tries to sell fear. It sells really well. Be careful not to fall for it.

There goes your logic babble again. Anything can change. When people are making predictions, they of course have to present a chain of (possibilities) events, then their likely outcome. Not like they said the us is going down the drain for sure, no matter what. But we do have to change the course on self destruction.

I'm not saying it COULDN'T happen. Reread what I wrote. I'm not even saying there aren't some relevant data there. I AM saying you just shared a video blowing those possibilities and data WAY out of proportion. I'm saying be careful. Just because something COULD happen, doesn't mean it WILL happen. I give this low odds, but not 0%. Maybe 10%? 

I'm also saying be careful of your media intake. Do some self reflection. You just shared a video with "GAME OVER" in it. I meant to mention this before but that and "CHECKMATE" just avoid those like the plague. If any youtube you watch starts posting those, stop watching them. And this goes for others when they see it for "GAME OVER CHINA". Same advice.

Again, hence "Not Quite" I know click bait when I see one.

I consume media from both (many) sides, and I know their propaganda - unlike some people I know who only know western media/propaganda. Be careful when you are in that bubble.  I take what is presented item by item and apply my own judgement - knowing both sides.

I have added my own take on top of the vid. So, debunk away.

[Charr Babies]

I will also note that it isn't like the US doesn't get to / isn't doing anything about. A common error in human thinking is that the same thing will just keep going and eventually "x" thing will happen. That can either be because the logic doesn't actually follow all the way down to "x" or because the logic is assuming nothing will happen to disrupt the chain. Do you know how many times the downfall of the dollar has been predicted? Its a few time periods at this point. All I'm saying is be careful of falling for hype videos like this. Media often tries to sell fear. It sells really well. Be careful not to fall for it.

There goes your logic babble again. Anything can change. When people are making predictions, they of course have to present a chain of (possibilities) events, then their likely outcome. Not like they said the us is going down the drain for sure, no matter what. But we do have to change the course on self destruction.

I'm not saying it COULDN'T happen. Reread what I wrote. I'm not even saying there aren't some relevant data there. I AM saying you just shared a video blowing those possibilities and data WAY out of proportion. I'm saying be careful. Just because something COULD happen, doesn't mean it WILL happen. I give this low odds, but not 0%. Maybe 10%? 

I'm also saying be careful of your media intake. Do some self reflection. You just shared a video with "GAME OVER" in it. I meant to mention this before but that and "CHECKMATE" just avoid those like the plague. If any youtube you watch starts posting those, stop watching them. And this goes for others when they see it for "GAME OVER CHINA". Same advice.

Thoughts on this video?

 Sorry, I have grown to old to watch Saturday morning cartoons!?

[Charr Babies]

We are doing just fine. China cannot become as self-sufficient as the USA.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen Warns China About Overproduction of Multiple Products

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[Mjmd]

Again, hence "Not Quite" I know click bait when I see one.

I consume media from both (many) sides, and I know their propaganda - unlike some people I know who only know western media/propaganda. Be careful when you are in that bubble.  I take what is presented item by item and apply my own judgement - knowing both sides.

I have added my own take on top of the vid. So, debunk away.

I'm sorry the "not quite" clearly absolves you from posting said click bait and taking most of its premises at face value. My apologies.