One hundred thousand Mohawks - Chief Mist of the Iroquois

[Rowain]

...... but that's not a good first expansion spot.

Absolutly agree with that.

[Mist]

[strike][SIZE="4"]Turn 7 ( I think )[/SIZE][/strike] Turn 9

Well, well, well. Look at this



I found Helsinki.

I did not find them first.

They are located in a perfect second city spot.

And there's someone close on the other side of them...



Wheel and HBR, so close, yet so far away...

[kalin]

I don't know if you know but it's pretty hard to take a city with just Horsemen... In case that's what you are planning.
Kalin

[Commodore]

That's a free food city state, right? Worth allying with so that they hate Sevdavfiruris on the other side?

[Mist]

I don't know if you know but it's pretty hard to take a city with just Horsemen... In case that's what you are planning.
Kalin

True. But apply enough numbers to a problem, and 'hard' becomes relative. There's also the fact that most of the 'good' strategies advocated on CFC ( and jumping at you from the game itself ) depend on teching top of the tree first. Great Library, Oracle, Civil Service, Temples... Join this and tendency of players in these parts of the Interwebs to run early farmer's sprees and it's quite likely that my unfortunate victim won't even have spears at hand.

I'm not committing to a rush right now, but those horses are useless once knights go out of fashion and I'd like to get some mileage out of them.

That's a free food city state, right? Worth allying with so that they hate Sevdavfiruris on the other side?

Meh, they've been nerfed to the ground and then some while devs 'addressed' the problem of ICS superiority. The hierarchy right now probably looks like Cultural >> Maritime > Militaristic, and I'd rather spend money in a targeted way given I'm not really suited to get much mileage of City States.

[SIZE="4"]Turn 11[/SIZE]



My scout found some ruins and these paid off with a map. It's clear I'm on the southern edge of the Pangaea. No jungle for me in this game

I got screwed hard by map generator overall, that's a really low amount of trees for Iroquois and one of my happies ( dyes ) requires I chop some of the few I have. I also have no marble at all and a very awkward stone far away in the tundra. I should probably snipe some workers from Helsinki to make up for this start, but that's so cheesy it stinks. There's no skill in exploiting lobotomized AI that can't even hit back properly, so I'll probably pass on the idea.

What else...

My second city should land on tile marked and focus on $$$. Monaco is cultural, and will pay off with 30g once I reach it. I should probably dump some gold on it once I get enough. Whoever found Helsinki before me is either N or NE judging from the lay of the land, so once Monaco is met properly I'll send the scout due north.

[Mist]

[SIZE="4"]15 turns of boredom later[/SIZE]

My scout got murdered by barbs shortly after it started to head north from Monaco. Found Old Faithful, but still no idea who is where, but being boxed in by barbarians as I am now, any future exploration will wait for horses.

Got my third cultural policy, dumped it into Liberty for a free settler.



To my unending annoyance, Crow can't build a Circus. It has two horse in workable range, even works one of them, but it's apparently not enough to qualify Civpedia is worthless as to telling me why

Tech screen :



Teching wheel now to connect the two with a trade route, HBR afterwards to clear nearby barbs, conquer Helsinki and go tour the world.



Economy is meh, barren land bites me with production focused capital and low overall population count. Gross Ventre is stagnated at 3 until I farm recently acquired river grass tile, Crow is working improved river horses to push out Monument quickly and waits for some tile improvements of it's own. Henge is built for failgold mostly, it's late so I don't expect to finish it before others, but I do need gold to buy that forest hill tile and I don't have better build options right now.

And lastly, demos :



Sigh. Did I mention that this land is shit yet?

[Nicolae Carpathia]

I think the way if a tile "belongs" to a city is if its culture claims a tile before another city. Therefore, you'll want to spread out your culture grabbing horse/stone, one city gets one, another city gets another.

It's weird but Civ5 culture lasts forever.

[TheArchduke]

Are the horses improved by a worker? Else no circus.

[Mist]

Are the horses improved by a worker? Else no circus.

Yes, they are. And still no circus

Anyhow, met Dave.



He came somewhere from the north-west with an archer. Snipped ruins from me bastard.

We can sign Open Borders, so he must know writing. No strategic resources. Two cities.



Sugar and Marble from luxuries, so I guess he'd like that gold over there. No cigar, if he tries to settle it I'm burning that city.



Apart from that - nice income, two social policies from Liberty ( like me ) and no Classical techs yet.

On home front - one chariot archer out. Another due in 2. Crow and Gross Ventre are connected with a trade route. I'll have dyes online next turn. HBR due in 5.

[Mist]

Sigh, screenshot fail again.

In words then - declared on Dave this turn. Killed one archer, severely damaged another one and will kill it next turn, third one will die after that unless it withdraws. This most likely secures the area for me, I have a settler in queue that will pop in 5ish turns ( can't tell exactly, I'm due to grow and complete stables in 2 before work starts on it ) that will start a city there to reinforce it further.

Dave did offer sugar for some gpt over 25 turns, probably in attempt to diffuse tensions and buy time to bring more military and his own settler into the area. I would take it in normal circumstances, but this spot is way too close for comfort and probably impregnable once you plop a catapult and few archers around for defense. I'll offer straight gold for sugar swap once I mop him out of there and settle the city.