Argh. I like something like Willem of Vikings, but that combo is hard because I can't be guaranteed it. Let's think this through
If I pick Willem now, Dazed and Seven still have yet to pick civ. They are Darius and Zara. It all depends on if they value Agriculture or Fishing as better, as I think you want one of the two here. If either of them want Fishing, I bet they take Vikings. Now, Dazed is playing Vikings like I am in PB5 and Seven saw Serdoa already do Vikings, so that very well could be the thing that dissuades them.
If I pick Vikings now, Yuris and Pindicator still have to pick. Yuris I think I can count on to take a PHI leader. Pindicator however may very well be going for my Willem of Japan plan, in which case I'd probably be stuck with something else.
So... Neither are great options. I do think I could get Pacal of Inca, but that not only is no scout, no whale (Agri), but it also is Myst which downgrades Rice to plains (-1f, +1h), which means you don't grow as fast which defeats half the point of starting with Agriculture. So I'd have a pretty slow start to overcome, and I'd still have to figure out a way to pop borders in such in a map where you're going to settle a lot of cities. That's half the reason I want Creative anyways.
Last time I agree to a non-snake pick hah.
If I pick Willem now, Dazed and Seven still have yet to pick civ. They are Darius and Zara. It all depends on if they value Agriculture or Fishing as better, as I think you want one of the two here. If either of them want Fishing, I bet they take Vikings. Now, Dazed is playing Vikings like I am in PB5 and Seven saw Serdoa already do Vikings, so that very well could be the thing that dissuades them.
If I pick Vikings now, Yuris and Pindicator still have to pick. Yuris I think I can count on to take a PHI leader. Pindicator however may very well be going for my Willem of Japan plan, in which case I'd probably be stuck with something else.
So... Neither are great options. I do think I could get Pacal of Inca, but that not only is no scout, no whale (Agri), but it also is Myst which downgrades Rice to plains (-1f, +1h), which means you don't grow as fast which defeats half the point of starting with Agriculture. So I'd have a pretty slow start to overcome, and I'd still have to figure out a way to pop borders in such in a map where you're going to settle a lot of cities. That's half the reason I want Creative anyways.
Last time I agree to a non-snake pick hah.
. And then ragequit for real. I'm still kinda expecting a PHI from Yuris though - I'd do it if I was him. The Artist is useful for a lot of things - 1) bomb key land like a chokepoint 2) bulb Monarchy. So because that's such a strong route, I think my two leaders are safe. I could always fall back on Sury.
