[SPOILER] Asoka of the Vikings (Nakor & Gaspar)

[Thoth]

Looking at your city names:

Is Paradise by the Dashboard light?

[pindicator]

Lurkers make no sense. Pie and Broccoli - lurker posts. Detailed game analysis - dead silence.

In my defense, last night I was out celebrating the fact that I've recently joined the ranks of the unemployment

Keep the analysis coming! The best parts of these threads is hearing the reasoning behind the moves for all the players involved.

[Nicolae Carpathia]

Keep the analysis coming! The best parts of these threads is hearing the reasoning behind the moves for all the players involved.

100% agreed. That's been my philosophy for the PBEMs I've been on (everyone lurk me (give me attention)).

[Gaspar]

I'm just playing around, really. While its always nice to know someone else is reading all this nonsense, anything of seriousness I post is first and foremost to just get my thoughts out for posterity, and secondly for Nakor so we can see where we stand and make a plan of attack. Still, I do appreciate the recent activity in the thread, and I'd like to echo Nakor's comments that we're happy to answer any questions/provide any screens that you're interested in, just ask.

As far as which fish site I want to settle, the backfill site east of Beaverpass and south of Riverland. Just want to get a little extra cultural push in that area, and it should be a half-decent stub site.

[Nakor]

Another turn!

Calender is in and we start on Feudalism to get some real defenses and more discount for Civil Service.

Missionary finished in Greenland, we start on another one.
Market done in Beaverpass, Settler there.
Granary done in Silverland, Library (?) next?
Riverland back on Settler duty, going to put a chop in as well.

Locke got Civil Service while LP build AP for Christianity.

Feel free to do the micro and end turn, Gaspar!

[Gaspar]

OMG, Lord Parkin built another wonder?!? And a reasonably mediocre one at that? What next, broccoli? [And yes, I recognize the irony for those who are following my PBEM14 thread :neenernee ]


My inclination would be a Forge over a Library in Silverland, other than the Silver tile itself, we'll mostly just get a bit of production out of that city and that's about it. I'm not forceful in that opinion to change the build however. :P Here's a look at Silverland for the lurkers:



Swapped Horseland to a cottage from that Horse. It'll grow next turn and can work the horse again if we're in a rush to get that Missionary out.

Beaverpass needs a Forge when its done with Settler(s.) I also realized we settled Beaverpass in such a way that means we can't ever work that fish I discussed earlier. Should have been 1S. We can settler the furs/whales site, though, and borrow the corn from Beaverpass for a while. There's also the fish/whales site to settle on the border of the peninsula with Locke. We've missed fish with a couple of city sites. If Crossing were 1S we could stick another city on Crossing Island, which would get those fish and also link our culture with Paradise by Dashboard Light. Oh well, no use crying over spilled fish.

By the by, the Pig/Gold city we lost to LP also has Iron. Man this game frustrates the hell out of me. In EP news, we've also lost rego's research. Not that I really care about such matters. I suspect we'll have more CH's than most of the players this game for some time, so if we really want to push EPs on someone, that won't be a problem.

Somehow I miscalculated whippage at Crossing II, and we can now only whip it for 1 pop. Might as well just wait until the last second then and overflow as much as possible to Moai.

There's all the news fit to print. I ended turn.

[Nakor]

Are you sure about Crossing II?

Anyways, about Silverland, it makes 12 commerce, with a Library, that will add 2 rpt. The forge will add about 1.25 hammers.
It's both ok with me, but that (and a Market) are the only things worth building there now.

We swap to Slavery next turn?

[Ellimist]

OMG, Lord Parkin built another wonder?!? And a reasonably mediocre one at that? What next, broccoli?

Opportunity cost ftw...

How may wonders does that bring him to? Can we get a top 5 cities advisor screenshot and/or wonder summary? I know who got pyramids, oracle, lighthouse, library, gardens, colossus and several of the minor wonders; are there any major wonders I missed? Are there any earlier ones still not built(great wall?)

[Gaspar]

Yeah, Library does more for Silverland in the immediate term, but long term its going to work a lot of mines. I don't mind the Library first, just saying. I suppose it needs to pop borders soon, anyway, not that it really matters that much, since there's all of two good tiles in 2nd ring. Market and Forge after that in some order. Need to get a Missionary there as well while we're building buildings. Probably will just be a moderate Military pump in the long run, but we still don't have any units that I really want to build a lot of. We already have way more axes than I would care to build with the NAPs we have (not saying you shouldn't have built them, just saying they're pretty worthless to us soon.) We can build LBs for garrison soon enough.

Well, I moused over the whip option in Crossing II, and it said 1 pop, so yeah, pretty sure. We do revolt back to Slavery next turn. Dashboard Light's borders will pop, so no other reason to be running Caste right now. We'll probably go back for Iron city when its settled, though the border pop there is less of an essential issue, since the key tiles will be already in our cultural borders.

[Gaspar]

Opportunity cost ftw...

How may wonders does that bring him to? Can we get a top 5 cities advisor screenshot and/or wonder summary? I know who got pyramids, oracle, lighthouse, library, gardens, colossus and several of the minor wonders; are there any major wonders I missed? Are there any earlier ones still not built(great wall?)

Just 3, its just that the only one of them worth anything right now is Henge. The AP has some value, but he only founded Christianity maybe 10 turns ago, so he surely doesn't have many Christian buildings to get the hammer bonus. The silly things is all 3 - Henge, ToA and AP are all in his capital, so he's either using his Bureaucratic capital as a GP farm (extremely dumb play) or he's fighting his potential GP farm with crappy a Prophet/Merchant farm in his capital. I mean we only have 1 GP and our GP farm isn't established enough to really churn the GPP yet, but we also haven't burned 800-ish hammers on wonders just to build them like he has. I know he's Industrious, but so are about half the civs in this game, so I'd bet my bottom dollar he's lost a wonder race or two along the way.

He's expanded better than us, but he really has some weird play along the way. If he kept focus better he'd probably be running away at this point.

I'll grab Top 5 next time I'm in game, but from memory:

LP - Stonehenge, ToA, AP
SM - Hanging Gardens
luddite - Oracle, Great Library
mackoti - Pyramids

The only wonders available to build for us are Great Wall and Chichen Itza, neither of which we'll be pursuing. I'd actually venture a pretty strong guess we won't build a single wonder all game.

I don't think I missed any there, but I'll get a cap next turn for posterity's sake.