Gillette Diplomacy Thread: Dossiers, Scheming, and Puppet Strings

[Old Harry]

One final tid-bit from plako, more plausible, but still I'm not keen:

plako: I've discussed with a team and we're ok to move 1E from marble, if you promise to gift your 1st surplus happy resource (2nd connected) in the future, that we lack. It might that you won't even get such a resource online during our NAP, but if you do we would get it with similar deal as you would have for marble.

[Old Harry]

So our options are:
We settle 1 south of Marble and in a crappy place down south, slightly upsetting Trolls.

We settle 3 south of Marble (if at all) and in a better place down south + get marble gifted to us (not sure that this will be useful) for the duration of the NAP
+ for negotiation - we gift elephant to Trolls for 10 turns when we improve it.

I think the second deal works better for us, and the elephant isn't a big problem, but we should try not to give it up.

Possible email:

Dear Trolls

Just to confirm:
- Our NAP will last to turn 140
- We are happy for you to settle 1e of the marble
- We will settle 1sw of the Elephant
- You will gift us marble

I don't think we can agree to gift you our first duplicate happy resource for 10 turns. Sorry.

If that is a deal breaker then I guess we'll stick with the previously agreed city locations.

All the best
Gillette

What do you guys think? Should we ask for a longer NAP?

[Cheater Hater]

I think this is fine, but I'd certainly agree to gift them a duplicate happiness resource if we get one--the key is that this means we should attack on T141

[YossarianLives]

I don't have a problem gifting them a surplus happy, but trust whatever you prefer to do, Old Harry.

[Old Harry]

Okay, the happy isn't important so I'll send this:

Dear Trolls

We're happy with the agreement that plako and I thrashed out over our grueling chat negotiation yesterday

Just to confirm:
- Our NAP will last to turn 140
- We are happy for you to settle 1e of the marble
- We will settle 1sw of the Elephant (FYI we will also be settling on the hills that we mentioned during the last NAP negotiations.)
- You will gift us marble for the duration of this NAP and any subsequent NAP
- We will gift you our first duplicate happy resource for 10 turns.

Just so you know we're planning to settle on the hill your chariot is on (about five tiles north west of your gold city) in two turns and 1sw of the elephant in about 6 turns.

All the best
Gillette

[Old Harry]

Message from Plako yesterday:

Great. We've a deal.

[Old Harry]

Possible message to TEAM:

Dear TEAM,

Thanks for not killing our scouting warrior, we're showing similar hospitality to your scouting archer - our more developed M3 border is north of where he is now, while our southern coastal region is pretty backward still.

It's interesting to see how close your borders with Trolls are. We've got big problems with their Creative culture (and frustratingly we were also aiming to get confucianism in a border city - great minds) but we've had generally good border agreements with them (although plako has probably got slightly the better of these deals).

Just thought you'd like to know we have a NAP with Trolls until t140. I expect them to be the runaway at that point and the way our borders are set up makes it very hard for us to attack them. We hope to have a pretty good navy by then so if you're planning anything and would like support let us know. Also we've only unfogged Bloody Mary, Caprinha and On The Rocks, making it hard to know where their weak points are. Do you have any more map info than that?

Cheers
Gillette

Is that giving away too much?

[Cheater Hater]

I might cut the comment about chasing confucianism, but I don't think we're giving up that much else, considering they're already exploring our borders--only other thing I can see is the NAP, which Trolls might not like much, but they never have to know

[Old Harry]

Yeah, no reason to give them more info than they need. I've sent this:

Dear TEAM,

Thanks for not killing our scouting warrior, we're showing similar hospitality to your scouting archer - our more developed M3 border is north of where he is now, while our southern coastal region is pretty backward still.

It's interesting to see how close your borders with Trolls are. We've got big problems with their Creative culture but we've had generally good border agreements with them (although plako has probably got slightly the better of these deals).

Just thought you'd like to know we have a NAP with Trolls until t140. I expect them to be the runaway at that point and the way our borders are set up makes it very hard for us to attack them. We hope to have a pretty good navy by then so if you're planning anything and would like support let us know. Also we've only unfogged Bloody Mary, Caprinha and On The Rocks, making it hard to know where their weak points are. Do you have any more map info than that?

Cheers
Gillette

I can't wait to see their reply, so far the grand total of their diplo with us this game has been:

Dear Team Paper Cut:

Jihad.

Sincerely,
TEAM

[Old Harry]

I forwarded our last team email to lewwyn

Was this sent to my email or the TEAM email? I haven't check my email in a day and never check the TEAM email.


I have a NAP with Trolls to 140 as well. Do you want to attack them? I think it will only work if we get help from Pirates and M3. Would they be interested in a 4 man pile up?

Interesting...