[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[TeddyKGB]

PM from Maga:

Oops, planned to change my Scoutess name too Sasha Grey next turn wink. Very nice to meet you guys biggrin. Come over for tea from primus some timewink

E-mail:

Hello Eggheads,

very nice to meet you, too! Will write more later, just wanted to let you know that we are not neighbors - your Western neighbor is Lord Parkin of Orgynizied. Since we are not neighbors, we can have even much longer NAP , more like 170, I think.

I am very interested in collaboration and thank you for an interesting info on our world. I initially though we are on a donut, now it looks like it is 2 rows of 5 civs. I initially thought there is a huge sea to the North - looks that way near our capitol - although in other places looks more like there are lakes everywhere, not one big sea. I agree that capitols are similar, but not identical and that everybody seem to start with 3 food resources, one of them seafood. What resources have you seen on the map so far? I will send you my list soon. I have also seen gold near every capitol - is there always a food resource near gold?

Best Wishes,

Maga

So, LP is our neighbour. Interesting.
I propose we start exchange more map info with M&M. We are interested in land between our team and LP.
Should we start working on anti LP alliance right away?

[DMOC]

Yeah, I was pretty surprised to read that message; so apparently, she moved her scout all the way past LP's lands and into ours! Anyway, now there's no point in negotiating a border agreement with them. This also means, as she said, we can afford a longer NAP. I wouldn't do 170, though, since if it's that long we risk that the NAP helps them more than us. I would suggest a NAP up to turn 100. What do you think of this?

I can agree with her suggestion that the map is divided into 2 rows of 5 civs each. This means that if our scout continues east past Care Bears, they'll find one more team, and then Ottoman's land. Also, I'm happy to share maps of what we've found to the west. (Make sure to crop them, though!)

Espionage points: for now, put them all on Care Bears. No need to put them on M&M until we see Care Bears demographics.

And finally, I can tell you're really eager to start an anti Orgynized alliance. (We really should be calling teams by their team name, rather than by players, so things don't get too personal.) I'm definitely interested in that, especially if Team Orgynized spends time wonderspamming. Still, early warfare is going to be hard with capitals ~15 tiles apart ... I would keep this in mind, but hold off and see what Team Orgynized can offer to us once we meet them.

So, in a nutshell:
1. Do we want to propose a NAP that lasts until turn 100?
2. Exchange map info?
3. Espionage points all to Care Bears for now
4. Leave open the possibility of a Team Orgynized dogpile? To do this we absolutely need to secure a long NAP with Team Care Bears, though.

PS: We also need to keep in mind of a Team Orgynized - Team Care Bears dogpile against us! Ideally, we will stagger all our NAPs with those two teams, none ending fewer than 15 turns from each other, for instance.

[TeddyKGB]

Well, T170 NAP offer is too obv to protect them from our UU.
T90-T100 is ok for now, and early(like T70-80) renegotiation to prolong it.

I was thinking about to send her PM myself just to clear few things. I'll post draft here before sending.

I don't wanna start anti LP actions yet, but I see him as a strong favorite to win this game. Maybe most of the players here see it as well.
We should test that theory on CareBears, convince them that dogpile us with LP's help wont be good for CareBears. And we dont know whos on their east (if it Rome, they have bigger problem before our UU time).
I want to raise some level of paranoia against LP, dont think it will be hard to do.

1. NAP t100 ok.
2. Sure. We are interested of LP's capital area.
3. Sure and LP next.
4. Lets not commit with long NAPs so far. LP is a hard target even with our UU. CareBears could be softer.

I call team Orgy as 'LP' not because I take it personally. (In fact, I really like him.) I call their team 'LP' because all decisions would be made by him and only him. You can reread PB4 thread to be sure of it.

[TeddyKGB]

What you think about this msg? Not sending yet.

Hi Maga,

Its nice you thinking to rename your scoutess to make me happy. As I said, its put my personal diplo status to you as 'Pleased' right away.

DMOC will put another official diplo msg soon. I don't see any reasons for our teams not to be long term friends in the future.
We are both have team Orgy as a neighbour, am I right?
Did you contact with team west of your capital?

Our team agree that 5x2 layout is most likely.
Team CareBears didnt make that contact yet.

We were scouting some area 9-10 tiles west of our capital before go east and meet team CareBears ~15 tiles east of our capital. And I guess our team is willing to share some screenshots of that (or any other) scouted area with you.

We'll be sending msg to CareBears and try arrange your contact with them if you agree.
We dont see any barbs close to your scout location at the moment, but our visibility is limited.

Our capital's 3 food sources are: Fish, Pigs and riverside Deer. DMOC could tell you more about resources we discovered so far.

I guess we can offer NAP till T90-T100 right now. And we can start early negotiation to renew it around T70-T80.
I can see why you ask NAP till T170, but as I understand situation right now, you don't have to worry about our UU.
There is Lord Parkin between us and he is not an easy target.
What you think about combining our UU's one day against common enemy and for both our teams benefit?

Regards,

Pleased TeddyKGB.

[TeddyKGB]

T26. Boom! Headshot!

[TeddyKGB]

Another pics. Didnt move any units.

[TeddyKGB]

Missed some ss. Someone size4 right now.
Scout cant promote now? He should heal, but still. Any other options for scout?

Exited he's survive! Just take two hits. Perfect.

[TeddyKGB]

I guess its a chop + 1popWhip into Settler. Good for them.

[DMOC]

Awesome news about our scout! I'd keep him in place, heal, promote next turn (combat 1?) and then move once perfectly healthy.

Feel free to move the worker with the warrior to start roading.

Our scout may want to find the second city spot for Team Care Bears.

[DMOC]

What you think about this msg? Not sending yet.

Hi Maga,

Its nice you thinking to rename your scoutess to make me happy. As I said, its put my personal diplo status to you as 'Pleased' right away.

DMOC will put another official diplo msg soon. I don't see any reasons for our teams not to be long term friends in the future.
We are both have team Orgy as a neighbour, am I right?
Did you contact with team west of your capital?

Our team agree that 5x2 layout is most likely.
Team CareBears didnt make that contact yet.

We were scouting some area 9-10 tiles west of our capital before go east and meet team CareBears ~15 tiles east of our capital. And I guess our team is willing to share some screenshots of that (or any other) scouted area with you.

We'll be sending msg to CareBears and try arrange your contact with them if you agree.
We dont see any barbs close to your scout location at the moment, but our visibility is limited.

Our capital's 3 food sources are: Fish, Pigs and riverside Deer. DMOC could tell you more about resources we discovered so far.

I guess we can offer NAP till T90-T100 right now. And we can start early negotiation to renew it around T70-T80.
I can see why you ask NAP till T170, but as I understand situation right now, you don't have to worry about our UU.
There is Lord Parkin between us and he is not an easy target.
What you think about combining our UU's one day against common enemy and for both our teams benefit?

Regards,

Pleased TeddyKGB.

Looking good., though let's be more specific with the NAP, and say that combining our armies is just an open idea, not something we need to commit now. Also, let's ask them that they not reveal any of this information to Team Orgynized.