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American Politics Discussion Thread
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(August 6th, 2024, 10:18)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: MJW election prediction Nice, I was hoping you would be doing this again!  Darrell
I will respond because I am not a kettle in this scenario. A) you are ignoring all the history and arguments I have pointed out about the facts YOU CHOSE. You have consistently avoided counter arguments around any of my counter arguments and just ignored them, usually by insulting me. B) Yes the facts you chose aren't the only ones that matter. And again there is a reason this is a logical fallacy. Choose 1 or a small # of specific things and ignore all argument regarding that one thing and its really easy to declare victory. I could do that too. Again that is how most of the internet works. Please don't do it here.
That specific part was conjecture, as was yours I was responding to in that section. However my larger point remains that Trump and the GOP consistently target assistance to low income families, so it makes no sense to vote for them if you care about the subject.
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 (August 6th, 2024, 14:05)Mjmd Wrote: However my larger point remains that Trump and the GOP consistently target assistance to low income families, Ad nauseam yada yada yada yada yada yada And yet, There are 20% more homelessness than before 25% increase of national debt And I have less money than before biden took over. And you still try to prove it's a good thing (cus it could be worse) When you accuse someone of bad, then you do worse, just made you look even worse. You see, I am not defending anyone or anything, so you don't get to go off on a tangent. I just know There are 20% more homelessness now 25% increase of national debt And most importantly, I have less money now than 4 years ago and that the same money buys less. I tell you what. Instead of you supposedly let me have the last words. I will be the bigger man and let you have the last words  PS: Okay we will switch sides, I will be the kettle.  Genocide is an atrocity that surpasses any imaginable evil. Such acts should be documented in history books to educate and remind us, and future generations, of these horrors so that we may learn from them and prevent them from happening again Free Tibet - Wherever The Fuck That Is Our free range troll  Keeping Everyone Honest(August 6th, 2024, 10:18)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: MJW election prediction Do you mean by that map that you think AZ and GA are not in play at all or that they would only be in play if the democrats have already won the election through other states ?
Just responding because I do not want to be accused of ad nauseam. Its not even the right fallacy here because I'm trying across multiple points across both historical and policy. You are cherry picking and repeating. I give you full permission to respond if you actually respond on one of my arguments and not just repeat.
- So on homelessness a lot of that is fall out from the pandemic. Now I've said before I don't think Trump deserves full blame here. He did both good and bad during that timeframe. But blaming 100% on Biden also isn't fair here. A good example is that Democrats majorly helped pass bills to help Americans out during Trumps term, but Republicans unanimously voted against during Biden's term. You can't 100% blame Biden or the Democrats when what he wanted to do more, but were stopped from doing so. You can also look again at Republican controlled states and see that they don't address homelessness issues other than to punish. You can look at access to healthcare, aid to the poor, worker protections, and push for raising minimum wage. There is a clear party contrast. - The deficit is down. Yes I am aware that is not the debt. However, Trumps tax cuts increased the debt and deficit not only during his presidency but going into the future; although the middle class ones expire 2025, but even after every president of either party will have to contend with the loss of income from the top brackets unless something is done. Versus almost all of the Democrats major bills have been paid for. Now you can blame them for not doing enough on military spending, but Republicans have done less. You can't really blame them for not increasing taxes both because A) there was a pandemic going on (which is when you should temporarily cut) and B) because Republicans will never vote for that. - I don't know enough about your personal life or finances to comment. BTW I would LOVE ranked choice voting. This IS a sidebar, but I get that a certain portion of the population just looks at a situation and goes "that specific thing isn't going great will vote other side" without considering any other issue or historical considerations or even looking at what the other side has done or is planning on doing on that issue. It isn't logical, but I get it happens. I think ranked choice voting has the highest chance of getting us a 3rd party and I also think it would lead to more moderate candidates. MAYBE that would make people at least look at the history and policies between the other two parties if they have decided to vote against the 3rd no matter what. (August 6th, 2024, 16:03)AdrienIer Wrote:Abortion hurts GOP much worse in the North. So if they lose AZ/GA they lose the rust belt. I believe AZ will be close and GOP had big edge in GA because abortion actually helps them there. DEMs had bad year in 2022 expect against Walker and that happened because he was a terrible candidate against good candidate.(August 6th, 2024, 10:18)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: MJW election prediction (August 6th, 2024, 17:45)MJW (ya that one) Wrote:(August 6th, 2024, 16:03)AdrienIer Wrote:Abortion hurts GOP much worse in the North. So if they lose AZ/GA they lose the rust belt. I believe AZ will be close and GOP had big edge in GA because abortion actually helps them there. DEMs had bad year in 2022 expect against Walker and that happened because he was a terrible candidate against good candidate.(August 6th, 2024, 10:18)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: MJW election prediction So basically if she can't win WI/PA, she isn't going to win AZ/GA...and if she does win WI/PA it does not matter if she loses AZ/GA, so the election is decided in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania? Darrell
Yep. If GOP were smart they would switch NE to winner-take-all which would make possible to win with NV and other combos. Maine would get annoyed and try to switch to winner-take-all but they would get blocked by the "people's referendum" which allows voters to force referendums on legislation.
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