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RBP3 - [SPOILERS] - Team DIM (Mehmed of HRE)
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February 24th, 2010, 10:44
(This post was last modified: February 24th, 2010, 11:28 by meatbalz.)
i don't have access to the game but there are a series of buttons just above the minimap where you can toggle things on and off.
edit: just re-read and now i'm wondering why i keep making these stupid mistakes, series = singular, so why "are a series"??? i hate poor grammar! (don't mind bad capitalising though as you can tell  )
February 24th, 2010, 13:13
(This post was last modified: February 24th, 2010, 13:46 by meatbalz.)
logged in to see if i could locate aztec's warrior + caught cyneheard, we chatted on gmail
edit: lots of important info to digest. ilios since you're the point man on diplo w/ the alliance can you relay this to egypt. i'll jot down preliminary conclusions shortly. Quote:me: hey
"eagle-eyes" update
 i logged into the game and basically went 34 East of India's capital (assuming 64 width for the time). I was about to post a screenshot of the "supposed" location - about 5N of the horses to the N, so i was already happy it wasn't too far - but decided to compare it to the aztec screenshot first. lo and behold it turns out the aztec warrior is 4 tiles East of where Brute's healing!  unbelievable! on the very tile circled in yellow in the screenshot... what's up with that????anyway, to move things along I sent a quick message to India Quote:Hey, thanks to your help I've identified the aztec warrior's location. We have a unit currently healing on a tile 4 W of where he's standing, would you mind letting him know? Our unit will be fully healed in 3 turns. we'll meet aztecs in 3T
Nice catch on the Aztec warrior, "Eagle eyes"
 We should actually move Tricky NW if we want to fully explore the lands between us and England, but we can move SW and then W. We have a rendez-vous with Carthage somewhere due W (I think) at the end of a long stretch of lake. Good job with feeling out England on the tech alliance subject, we'll see if we can convince them joining our alliance eventually. I really want them in, so we can really concentrate our defences to our east and south east. I don't really understand why you kept returning to Midas' "excellent defences" though. They do C&D, so they should know we only have a paper defence at the moment. I'm sure you were trying to make sure they'd leave the city alone, but instead you've conveyed a sense of nervousness about the city, which is why they ended the chat with confirming that Midas' site "shouldn't be theirs". I think the best thing to do at the moment to calm both sides' nerves is to propose a short NAP, lasting until T75-80. That way they don't have to bother covering their worker while Tricky moves along.
There is a discussion going on in the IT thread, because Portugal wants a reload, and most of the other teams don't want a reload because of a misclick or forgetting to put a build in a city. They refer to the reload Dazed asked way in the beginning of the game because of our scout move. I was thinking we could offer to have one pause deducted from our team's total to keep things going.
I have made the moves we'd agreed upon, and Ruff asked to move our warrior 1 tile east, because his warrior wants to move east after meeting up. I therefore moved Brute NE on the forested hill. Unfortunately, there is a frickin' bear next to him now. He's at 1.6 health, and with the bonusses we have against the bear attacking (+105%) we have a bit more than 50% chance of survival. If Brute does bite the dust, full blame goes to me... I haven't ended the turn yet, because I want to discuss making a worker before going for a settler. That way we'll have 3 workers for 3 cities initially. With the chop going in a worker, we'd finish it in three turns, and will give us an opportunity to build a road towards Horse city and keep more chops going in the settler. I think in the end, we'll only delay the settler by 2 turns. Anyway, that's my vote for the moment, let's hear your thoughts and then we can make a decision. Diplo from A4: Quote:Greetings DIM I will answer them re Carthage that we'll want at least 8 teams in the alliance, and that Krill will explain them fully what is expected of the trades. Good news on the Marble site. If the gold site will only be their 5th city! (Although I'm stumped why they wouldn't want to take full advantage of that gold tile asap). We can still offer them Hunting and Masonry when the Alphabet is available. I will tell them that Tricky should reach the south of the lake in about 5 turns, and should they wish, they can head east from there. Message from CHASM: Quote:Random question (trying to fix an error in our C&D files): France doesn't have a second city out yet according to my C&D, and they are the last city not having a second city out (Rome I'm not sure about, but I think they do. I think that's a strange question, and my paranoid mind is thinking they ask us this to see how good our C&D is. Your thoughts? I would like to take this opportunity to ask if they want an NAP to ease their minds about our intention (I won't offer it directly, only ask if they want one)
the bear didn't attack
 Ilios Wrote:I don't really understand why you kept returning to Midas' "excellent defences" though. They do C&D, so they should know we only have a paper defence at the moment. I'm sure you were trying to make sure they'd leave the city alone, but instead you've conveyed a sense of nervousness about the city, which is why they ended the chat with confirming that Midas' site "shouldn't be theirs". i think you might be putting words into my mouth there ilios. i never said defences at midas were "excellent" like you quoted, i just said we'd defend it pretty tightly. as the conversation was ending, we were talking about copper on the map, they said they hadn't seen any, i'd earlier told them we'd found it at midas, so they were referring to the fact "their" copper source hadn't been found yet. having said that, feel free to take whatever diplo action you think is appropriate to rectify the situation. i don't really understand what we're doing at midas from a micro perspective. i was already in favour of chopping the monument out to work the corn, let alone now we have copper there. instead stakhanov is farming a tile when we want midas to run full-blast cottages? what's going on there? that chop into a worker gives us 5 free hammers but it's costing us a turn of not working either the corn or copper depending on which we improve first so we come out at a net loss (copper mine 1/5/1, corn 6/0/1)we might want to consider moving stakhanov to either of the hills N of him + chopping to speed the worker/settler along instead of farming a tile we're just going to cottage over. these are wasted worker turns. the corn will provide all the food we need to work our cottages once we get it irrigated. stakhanov is unmoved for the turn as i have tentatively halted the farming; if we feel farming is still the best option, no harm done. as for brute, my only thought is it would have been better to move him there this turn, when we were sure aztec's warrior was on the forest 2E, to be sure of making contact. it was bad luck to find a bear there, but the fact he didn't attack makes up for it brute is unmoved.which unit's going to act as cover for city 3? is it tricky doubling back? he's currently 6T from the site, which is great, but he's moving in the opposite direction so that in 3T he'll be 8T away. assuming we want to meet carthage, we'll need another warrior. i like your plan of worker into settler at DIM, we've got forests to chop aplenty both at DIM and later at city3 so let's get those hammers into play early. assuming tricky keeps on moving SW, let's see if we can find a way to get a 1T warrior between the worker and the settler (not sure we can). meatbalz Wrote:the bear didn't attack Ah great! meatbalz Wrote:i think you might be putting words into my mouth there ilios. i never said defences at midas were "excellent" like you quoted, i just said we'd defend it pretty tightly. I may have overreacted. My apologies meatbalz Wrote:having said that, feel free to take whatever diplo action you think is appropriate to rectify the situation. Do I offer a short NAP (till lets say T70-75)? Do I tell them about France's second city? meatbalz Wrote:i don't really understand what we're doing at midas from a micro perspective. i was already in favour of chopping the monument out to work the corn, let alone now we have copper there. instead stakhanov is farming a tile when we want midas to run full-blast cottages? what's going on there? I thought we had agreed to use the microplan from post #359, because even with the chop the monument finished at the same time. We use the farm to get to size two before starting a worker. But you may have a point, so agree to move the worker NE-N and start chopping next turn. We'll start a warrior, so he can claim the horse site, and start on a worker after that. We'll switch to Spearman once copper comes in, and finish the worker at size 3 working Gold/Copper/Corn. meatbalz Wrote:instead of farming a tile we're just going to cottage over. these are wasted worker turns. the corn will provide all the food we need to work our cottages once we get it irrigated. Well here I have to disagree. Like I mentioned before, working those three dynamite tiles only gives us a surplus of 4 food. Once our city grows bigger, we can use that extra farm after a whip to very quickly grow back. You didn't agree with farming the grassland river around DIM either, but we did manage to make good use of it, and we'll continue to do so once we start whipping. But as you said, it is not a priority now, so lets just move Stakhanov and whip out another worker... meatbalz Wrote:as for brute, my only thought is it would have been better to move him there this turn right you are! meatbalz Wrote:brute is unmoved. I'll send another message asking if Ruff's warrior moved in the meantime. meatbalz Wrote:which unit's going to act as cover for city 3? is it tricky doubling back? he's currently 6T from the site, which is great, but he's moving in the opposite direction so that in 3T he'll be 8T away. assuming we want to meet carthage, we'll need another warrior. We'll use the warrior out of Midas.
yeah, i think a short NAP with england makes sense in order to build trust. you're much more tuned in to what's happening on the tech alliance front so broach the subject whenever you think the time is right, i think we're all in agreement we'd rather have england in our group than in babylon's.
you're right about the farm @ DIM, we have indeed made good use out of it. i think the higher priority right now is to turn those forests into early hammers, the good news is those are hammers going into workers so we always have time to get that farm done if you think it's important. i think chopping the turn BW started would get us the monument 1T earlier, but it's not a life-changing decision. what MIGHT be a life-changing decision is using midas' warrior to cover city 3 - warrior takes 6 turns to get to city3 from midas - ETA for founding city3 assuming 2 chops is T58, meaning warrior has to be on the tile T57 i.e. moves out of midas on T52 - we need to hope there are no barbs in the way when the settler moves T56 - monument finishes T51, meaning warrior done @ max speed on T56 - midas is empty 4T - france isn't a worry (NAP ends T61), but a barb or warrior from whoever's to the E of us can walk in and take the city undefended |
