WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

[Rob The Filch]

John is refusing to mod-kill himself, and instead forcing the village to waste a lynch to get rid of him.

How does one modkill themselves in this game? They don't vote for two days. Is Scarlet John voting for anyone? No. Hence he is in fact moving towards the modkill.

[Sir Percival]

on reread of will posts, and posts voting will today, (not whole thread tho) i dont understand case on will either.

You have read Will's post and don't find them contentless and odd? You don't find his "I'm watching Jon and Rob closely" without any mention about the why scummy? So far he said nothing about the findings of his close watching. You don't find the fact that he has just 3 posts with some content and the rest of his post are just jokes and chatter odd.

To add:

damn, I thought I was breaking a tie.

well I hope you guys are right.

doesn't ping your scumdar? Really?

Sir Percival I can understand (although I would disagree) if you say you find Muriel scummier and prefer her getting lynched but your declaration of Will is innocent makes me wonder on which side you are on.

i love it if will contributes more, but right now i consider him null tell. i do not declare will innocent. i think that quoted will post less scummy than those who believe muriel contribute positively.

i agree will need to lift contribution tho.

[Rob The Filch]

And Scarlet John I know you are busy and you feel you don't have time, but I want you to try. An hour a day is fine with me.

[Fat Rose]

I had pretty much decided that anyone going after Scarlet John today was going to get a scum lean from me. His posts have been sparse but good. I have not gotten and scum vibes from him. I do not think he was really under pressure today. He came out on his own to say he may or may not really have time to play fully. But this is RB where not being able to play fully means not being able to read and post 10 hours a day. I mean thats truly the extent of what we demand from active people in an RB WW game. It makes them special it also makes them frustrating, especially when everyone else puts in effort and then is on your case. But I thought Scarlet John handled it pretty well. He said okay maybe he shouldn't have signed up. He willing to set up a modkill if necessary. And he's willing to play on. He already posted a couple of very good posts today outlining suspicions he has. He's not at the level of the policy lynch in any format and anyone pushing to policy lynch him based on that just wants to make sure the village wastes a lynch.

You haven't even read my post, have you? You just babble along here how John is a bad lynch, how he posted sparse but good. Where? Show me those posts, I've gone through all of them and I can't find anything particularly insightful. There are only 6 on D1, shouldn't be that hard...

And that shit what we demand from people in RB WW is just wrong. I certainly am not investing 10 hours a day and still can keep up and post my thoughts. Also you attribute statements to him that he never made. He never said he may or may not have time to play, he said:

"I just haven't had much time or energy for this game"

He also never wrote that he shouldn't have signed up. And being willing to setup a modkill just means that he is not voting and easily can turn around at the end of D3 if he 'suddenly' finds more free time.

Also, again you state he made a couple of good posts today. Please show them to me, I definitely can't find them, maybe because there was only one that was actual content. And I beg to differ on how good that post was as I explained already. Would be nice if you would also explain what you believe are such great insights.

If he's scum and he's still hanging around in 2 days and seems scummy lets addres it then. Honestly I'm not getting any scum vibes from him. I don't see him suspicious at all.

See Agnes, I didn't even need to wait till D3 to get prove for my point. There is already the first one to tell you that we should give him time. And I promise that attitude won't change. John will just have to post 2-3 points, probably enough to just rephrase what others stated at that point already ("now cut him some slack, he didn't have time earlier to post...") and he'll be given till it is too late.

He didn't say he wasn't going to do shit. He actually did shit today. More shit than you did in all your posts today. You're the one pontificating and doing jack shit.

Scarlet John because we have to, no matter what alignment you really are.

Oh yes! We have to lynch him! Who cares if he's a villager! We don't know when he'll stop contributing! Who cares if he just posted coherent and thoughtful posts! He could flake out on us at anytime, so we have to lynch him NOW!

Please cut the emotional shit. It really gets annoying Rob. If you have points to make, make them. If you just want to scream around like a toddler, do it somewhere else.

Your rehash of the Mary suspicious at first glance appears valid, but then you say she's never answered why she switched from me to you, but you seem to ignore the posts leading through and after the switch. People change their minds in WW. Is that a hard concept for you to understand Muriel? I know you're slow. It'll be okay.

Mary switched from you to her, but when she did so, she still stated that she is not convinced of her guilt. That's basically saying "Let me jump on the wagon, even though I don't like the direction it is taking"... Imo that is a valid point. Even if we assume that she somehow came to the conclusion that you are not suspicious despite acting as before, just voting for someone while stating the one you vote for is probably not guilty isn't making sense.

The highlighted bit is the worst. You have a choice. But you are making it seem like we have NO choice. Your hands are tied. You wash the blood. Pontius Pilate reincarnated!

And again the emotional shit. I think Muriel explained pretty clearly why she thinks we have no choice. If that is true or not can be discussed. But to do so, you should outline why we have a choice and which choice that is. I've explained before why I don't see it as valid to just wait till D4, if you differ, explain it. If you can't, at least don't scream around.

[Rob The Filch]

Also, I have no trouble understanding percival. I understand where his opinions are. He is very clear. Just this last post:

i love it if will contributes more, but right now i consider him null tell. i do not declare will innocent. i think that quoted will post less scummy than those who believe muriel contribute positively.

i agree will need to lift contribution tho.

How is this not clear? Short, yes. Brief, yes. But it is not unclear. I do not believe that villagers need to explain everything all the time. Sometimes you guys are ridiculous. Not everything has to be spelled out. When something does then yes turn the screws. But so far I don't ahve any questions about why Percival suspects muriel and what makes her more suspicious today. He posted right after Muriel railed on about a policy lynch.

I'm not going to put any words in his mouth. But I am going to say that I understand and I find it hard to believe that other don't. Unless they are Muriel who is being willfully obtuse and trying to split hairs in order to create reasonable doubt and discredit opponents.

Lynch all lawyers.

[Muriel The Slow]

Village do not equate massive posts and large numbers of posts with innocence! Do not mistake all shorter, consice and succinct posters for scum. Do not be brainwashed sheep.

I can't stand it anymore. I wanted to wait until later in the day to start the wagon on you Muriel the Slow, but I can't stand your BS anymore. All game from the first post you've been writing long flowery language that goes on forever and is nauseating. You start reading it and you forget what the point was, but then you realize there is no point because its all empty fluff. There is little to no content there's nothing. Theres defensive fallbacks and offensive mudslinging. There's the vote for Friar Andrew to save yourself that you tucked in when it tepped the scales. a vote you made WITHOUT A WORD BEYOND HIS NAME. You? No explanation? No sorry but I have to do this? No it was done slyly and trying not to draw attention to itself. You act like a peacock and when its time to stick the dagger in the back you run silent.

You probably won't be lynched today because most of the villagers are spell bound, but by God I hope they wake up.

Oh, what a surprise, Rob is lying to get Muriel lynched!

Andrew isn't the only non-content poster. But I'm happy with the paradigm shift of lynching non-content posters instead of content posters. It's a good idea in general, since without content we can only lynch randomly and the odds would be against us. Taking a chance at catching a wolf staying low is at least better than lynching me, but only slightly better. That said I would much rather lynch anyone from my wolf lean list than Andrew. A thing in favor of the Andrew lynch is that it was set up by people I suspect to be villagers, which at least lowers the chances that it was a miss-lynch set up by a wolf.

Rose, I would be willing to vote Tom.

Mureil "wins" the tiebreak 35-24 assuming she makes a self defense vote.

I will make one if it comes to that. I have no desire to play a martyr.

Honestly this is going to sound really cocky and I realize that, but the only thing that makes sense to me is that I got them. I'm on the right track, and that's why they're acting so ridiculous, just hoping that keeping the act up will give them enough "a wolf would never be so obvious" points to make it work. Rob is a wolf. Mary is a wolf. John is a wolf. Percival.. I don't know. I still get the noob vibe from him, and the newest post shows some personal growth.

John is refusing to mod-kill himself, and instead forcing the village to waste a lynch to get rid of him.

How does one modkill themselves in this game? They don't vote for two days. Is Scarlet John voting for anyone? No. Hence he is in fact moving towards the modkill.

You ask him. He will accept. If he doesn't, then you can break one of the other rules, like proving your identity with a screenshot, to force his hand. I'm sure he will accept the mod-kill request due to real life situation, because just a straight up mod-kill will affect the game the least.

[Fat Rose]

John is refusing to mod-kill himself, and instead forcing the village to waste a lynch to get rid of him.

How does one modkill themselves in this game? They don't vote for two days. Is Scarlet John voting for anyone? No. Hence he is in fact moving towards the modkill.

Write a PM to the Narrator and tell him to modkill you as you don't want to play any longer. The modkilling after not voting for 2 days is there to prevent the village to have to lynch someone who suddenly isn't posting anymore, it is not necessary to wait it out.

[Fat Rose]

Also, I have no trouble understanding percival. I understand where his opinions are. He is very clear. Just this last post:

i love it if will contributes more, but right now i consider him null tell. i do not declare will innocent. i think that quoted will post less scummy than those who believe muriel contribute positively.

i agree will need to lift contribution tho.

How is this not clear? Short, yes. Brief, yes. But it is not unclear. I do not believe that villagers need to explain everything all the time. Sometimes you guys are ridiculous. Not everything has to be spelled out. When something does then yes turn the screws. But so far I don't ahve any questions about why Percival suspects muriel and what makes her more suspicious today. He posted right after Muriel railed on about a policy lynch.

I'm not going to put any words in his mouth. But I am going to say that I understand and I find it hard to believe that other don't. Unless they are Muriel who is being willfully obtuse and trying to split hairs in order to create reasonable doubt and discredit opponents.

Lynch all lawyers.

You spell it out so that

a) others can weigh your arguments and comment on them
b) it makes certain that you will have to confront and discuss with your target before it dies and can't comment, otherwise it would make it very easy to just vote and if it turns out bad just point to a post or two and state "Oh, but those were scummy, that's why I voted for her". If you instead have to explain before the lynch, the one to be lynched can explain and / or correct you.

And again, your screaming gets annoying. Just because someone is not of your opinion doesn't mean they are sheep. Maybe you should... I don't know, spell out your arguments and convince them instead? Like I explained above...

[Bert The Bard]

I have to side with Rob on Scarlet John.
Sir Percival, while I can guess from context what the new scumtells on Muriel are, it wouldn't hurt to state them.
I have some followup questions on Muriel's case against Simple Mary but I would like Simple Mary to comment first.

To be clear, by Simple Mary I mean Sister Mary.

Still waiting for some personal growth by Short Richard, though.

[Sir Percival]

I have to side with Rob on Scarlet John.
Sir Percival, while I can guess from context what the new scumtells on Muriel are, it wouldn't hurt to state them.
I have some followup questions on Muriel's case against Simple Mary but I would like Simple Mary to comment first.

last night, protest about use of emotional language. today, massive use of emotional language.
also bizarre policy lynch on scarlet john, even after better content* than any of muriel's billion posts.

add to awful day 1 and it clear muriel is bad for town

* personal opinion