American Politics Discussion Thread

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Well one side is saying they shouldn't be allowed to exist. Saying they SHOULD be allowed to exist doesn't seem radical to me?

This is an absurd framing that makes whoever uses it sound like a complete hack. Transgender and transexual individuals have existed before they became a hot button political topic, and will continue to exist longer after they cease to be. No one has invented a magic weapon that causes them to not exist.

And the question can be turned on you. IT IS a really small issue, so why did Republicans spend 1/3 of their marketing budget on it?

Because it was effective, obviously. The Trump ad that garnered the biggest response from undecided voters was an attack on Komala being in favor of trans issues. Voters clearly signaled that their preference was not being in favor. It's more prudent to ask why the Harris campaign didn't publicly disown the trans issue and promise to ensure that men will not be allowed to compete in women's sports. Especially if this was the most important election ever, with democracy itself being on the line.

I a white male was once in an interview with another white male where the interviewer said "women don't really understand us guys, they just don't get us". The whole finance department was indeed white males. Pretending discrimination doesn't exist, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'll admit its a tricky issue and I don't like a lot of the current solutions. It doesn't mean its NOT an issue though and the solution is to do nothing! My preferred solution is to at least do blind resumes (IE no name) and maybe even blind interviews at least for first round.

The solution is to let people build companies that discriminate however they please, because there is no truly 'blind' way of staffing that satisfies Civil Rights law. Criminal background checks are discriminatory against any group prone to criminal behavior. IQ tests discriminate against low IQ groups. But if those laws were simply repealed, then progressives could simply make their own companies and organizations that explicitly give priority to minority candidates - with the understanding that they cannot enforce those preferences on competitors.

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You were literally arguing like 3 posts ago that it was a new thing.......

Yes fear and hate are effective weapons. We've went over this; its not new historically. We can use a non racial historical example this time. Those Christians are abnormal! How weird is it they only have 1 God and refuse to worship ours!!!! Its a good thing 2 Roman emperors didn't try to distract from their failings by blaming and persecuting Christians..... As to why she didn't. There weren't any speakers at the DNC that were trans and her only statement during this campaign was in support of their rights and it wasn't a common talking point. So why not completely denounce? Well you can't really virtue signal if you are doing hate speech instead. Its also possible they thought only idiots would believe trans people in womens sports is a common issue / big deal. But maybe they should have given some sort of "leave it to the sports organizations" statement as the average voter doesn't know that in some whole states there are no identified trans people in a woments sport.

Fun fact a lot of orchestras and other musical groups do blind auditions. The # of racial minorities increased. It is fully possible to do resumes without names. Its not required currently and its rarely used, but it is possible and I think a good unbiased way. Most of history is filled with "let people discriminate". It really hasn't been pleasant for those not in the group discriminating. Would you want to be in one of those groups? NO. You are only saying this garbage because you aren't. Also, there is a large difference between discriminating based on qualifications for the job, and you know what race / gender a person is. If you can't operate excel, you can't be an accountant (everywhere I've worked). That is a job qualification. Being a women has nothing to do with if you can operate excel; yet I know of a manager who that mattered to. Its taken pretty much the whole of human history for women to have equal rights and you just want to undo it........... WTF. I've worked in 3 different FP&A orgs and I can tell you its heavily white (and mostly male although I think that is slowly decreasing). My first company had like 50 FP&A folks and I think 2 were black and 1 was hispanic. My 2 companies since were smaller, but between say 40 employees over time 1 was hispanic. Don't worry anti discrimination laws don't work that well, don't get yourself worked up. That is one of the reasons I'm big into the no name resume idea. It feels the fairest and its proven to be somewhat effective.