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Bigger · December 16th, 2012, 04:16

(December 16th, 2012, 04:14)Lewwyn Wrote:
(December 16th, 2012, 04:09)Old Harry Wrote: Would the plains hill be a good alternative? It gets the sheep and horse first ring, but I can't see the bigger picture, so maybe I'm missing something (like the lack of forests)...

I think it a viable alternative. It would be more defensible on a hill. But yes you're also right that the main draw back is lack of forests in the first ring.

Going for a quick fourth city sounds like a plan. I don't really want to go to war with Azza. I'm not sure if we'll have a choice given he's Rome and we don't have copper.

I think lack of food is an even bigger drawback tongue

. but yes lack of forests as well.

Bigger · December 16th, 2012, 14:47

demos after the turn rolled:

Lewwyn, they are getting better and I think we'll be doing quite well once our cities grow. we'll have a top 3 GNP, a top 1/3 food, and respectable manufacturing. we'll hit top 5 cities when we grow to size 6, maybe even at size 5. our gnp grew this turn enough to shave a turn off our masonry research, which is nice. im sure it'll grow more when you found the Odyssey w/ immediate trade routes (nice micro there).

I think let the capital grow to 6 on chariots then slow build the settler? try to avoid 2-pop whipping.

that said, we need moar cottages! NE, N of capital, S-SE of capital, and SW of iliad all need cottages.

btw, I've noticed neither azza not serdoa seem to be putting EP's on us. either they are in an EP war with each other or they have discoverd another player south of azza? either way, if azza doesnt put some on us soon, we'll have research visibility on him in 9-10 turns, lol.

Lewwyn · December 17th, 2012, 09:04

Didn't realize you had switched it to Masonry earlier. One of the reasons I wanted to start Poly was that it would lead to Priesthood as well as Monotheism that way we could get the prereq on writing and efficient beakers there as well as Monarchy. Though at this point doing Masonry first doesn't really make a difference I suppose, if we can get to Judaism first.

Anyway I can't unpause so if people decide to not reload you'll need to play the turn. I logged in earlier and played with the tiles. I left Gilgamesh on the horse,mine,crab,wheat and Illiad on the cottage,rice. This gets Illiad to grow in 2 turns (which is max speed) and allows gilgamesh to grow in 3 turns while building a chariot in 3 turns. Both good things I think. The workers in the north need to finish the cottage 1 N of Gilgamesh. Then I think we need to consider chopping forests into a new settler in Gilgamesh, though that's not on the next turn.

Scout needs to see whats in the hut and city needs to be built.

Worker in Illiad should move 1SW and put a turn into a cottage. Worker by Odyssey moves to the corn and starts farming.

Warriors explore?

Old Harry · December 19th, 2012, 08:27

Looks like the reload happened and there are 5 hours left on the clock. Will you guys be able to grab it?

Bigger · December 19th, 2012, 08:55

you can grab it if you can remember exactly what lewwyn did the first time.

if not, ill do it in an hour or two.

Lewwyn

No sweat got it now. We aren't even last.

Bigger

long gchat between me and lewwyn

tl;dr version: we discussed possibly grabbing a stonehenge and moved city #4 to the wines spot, which we now know has grassland cows 2nd of the wine. you'll see it when lewwyn posts the turn report. also we will want sailing soon, we have at least 2 decent island cities to found for IC routes.

as for war, we also talked each other out of it. lewwyn is worried about crashing our economy for more than 4 chariots. I'm not, but I'm concerned about the logistics - azza has no military now, but he has massive MFG, a level 6 capital, and slavery. which means he probably has copper already and could easily get 2-3 spears out if needed in his capital.
also he has a warrior on a hill across the lake from the Odyssey (founded since reload) and it would be difficult to sneak around it from east of the lake. attacking west of the lake is not really an option, too many forests near his capital in that direction.

we may have a sneaky chariot to strike in case azza tries to settler the gold/rice region between our two empires. I'm also not opposed to sending 2-3 chariots in to harass azza and pillage his pigs. this could work well if he doesnt have horses (hit, run, hide - the highland way), but probably better after iron working so we can keep him away from the iron smile

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Old Harry · December 21st, 2012, 04:49

I'd be surprised if Serdoa isn't aiming for Stonehenge too. Although I'd have tried to get it earlier than now if I was him, so I could be wrong...

Bigger · December 21st, 2012, 04:52

well we don't have a plan yet. and honestly I would prefer judaism for culture. I got a ton of free spreads in my SP using the same settings, and this might be the last time we get a chance at founding a religion (eventually we'll get a spread from serdoa, but since we haven't even identified his borders yet that will likely be awhile).

plus OR will be very helpful as well.

Bigger · December 21st, 2012, 05:00

(December 21st, 2012, 04:52)Bigger Wrote: well we don't have a plan yet. and honestly I would prefer judaism for culture. I got a ton of free spreads in my SP using the same settings, and this might be the last time we get a chance at founding a religion (eventually we'll get a spread from serdoa, but since we haven't even identified his borders yet that will likely be awhile).

plus OR will be very helpful as well.

that said, if stonehenge sits around too long, it will be useful just for the great prophet. I can't understand how with 4 other IND civs no wonders have fallen yet. quite strange.

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