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WW27 Game Thread: Once there were 12

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(September 1st, 2013, 23:32)Qgqqqqq Wrote: The rest of it also seems to be complete interaction tells, which always feel really sketchy to me, especially considering MJW behaves unpredictably.

What's sketchy about basing a case on interaction tells? You yourself agreed that a reveal today should wait, to maximize interaction tells.
If you know what I mean.
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(September 2nd, 2013, 01:21)Qgqqqqq Wrote:
Quote:I'll join you on Jowy for now, Gazglum. Though I must warn you yourself that you still stand out as the most logical lynch.
This sounds scummy...like you're leaving it open for jumping back on. I mean I get the pressure vote/exploring options, but still...

Yeah, I'm leaving it open. I thought it was only fair to tell him that, given that he possibly won't be around near the deadline.
If you know what I mean.
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Oh, and the blank posts have something to do with mismatched quote tags.
If you know what I mean.
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(September 2nd, 2013, 01:21)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Why on earth do you think Jowy would be night killed???
I believed the dynamics of the MJW vote cast Jowy in quite a townish light. Apparently I was alone in that supposition, since several people appear to be attacking him for exactly what I considered a fairly strong town tell...

Matt Wrote:...because a 4-4 coin flip isn't worth risking?
I mean, of all the people on the MJW wagon who could be scum, you pick one who not only cast effectively the deciding vote (gaurantee MJW death rather than coin flip between us), but has numerous documentation supporting a choice to keep me alive over MJW?
Gazglum
He didn't cast the deciding vote (at the time it was 4:3) unless you assume a Jowy-Gaz scumpair (which I don't). I think he's the least decisive vote there personally. And so do others (myself for instance wink but also Jkaen at least, and probably novice/zak too...which makes everyone). He was probably the least confident for you over MJW, I think he only voiced it when he voted in the last 15 minutes.
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How is a choice between 5-3 (garunteed kill with 10 people alive and one of those not voting being the 3) and 4-4 (when you're not necessarily expecting either remaining vote to be cast) not a deciding vote? It's deciding between a garunteed lynch and a coin flip, at the very least.

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Quote:ninja edit: you're good at this quoting business, Qgqqqqq tongue
Has this happened to you before? If so, why does it happen???
It happens when you mess up quote tags sometimes. Putting an open instead of a close, so you end up with two un-closed tags, for instance.
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(September 2nd, 2013, 01:24)Qgqqqqq Wrote:
(September 1st, 2013, 09:23)Mattimeo Wrote: Of course, significantly more time than that is generally useful, for actual analysis.
What analysis do you need to do?
If someone roleblocked and there was a no-kill, that's a pretty obvious person to vote for. Interaction analysis can come later.
Well, we have someone who was roleblocked (you do know that's half the function of a Gaoler, right?). Do we have an obvious person to vote for from that? Or would you prefer to have, say, a day or so to discuss the implications?
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Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
-- As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
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Q, what's your current assessment of what went down yesterday? Was MJW bussed, did they try to save him, or something in between?
If you know what I mean.
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(September 2nd, 2013, 01:44)zakalwe Wrote:
(September 1st, 2013, 23:32)Qgqqqqq Wrote: The rest of it also seems to be complete interaction tells, which always feel really sketchy to me, especially considering MJW behaves unpredictably.

What's sketchy about basing a case on interaction tells? You yourself agreed that a reveal today should wait, to maximize interaction tells.

Because it's based solely off what they've said in relation to someone who we don't know is scum. If that person is then town (as happened...) then the entire case falls down. Moreover, interactions always feel a weak thing to base a case on because they ignore what the player has posted, and, like (I think Gaz) said earlier, you can pretty well find a bunch of crap connecting most people. Specifically in this case Gazglum basically spent a day deciding Azarius was scum and extrapolating from there.
A reveal should wait was about finding out a confirmed scum, which is different from this.
Quote:Yeah, I'm leaving it open. I thought it was only fai to tell him that, given that he possibly won't be around near the deadline
Ok, I hadn't thought about him not being online.
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Unofficial tally:

Gazglum: Novice, Azarius, Jkaen, Mattimeo
Jowy: Gazglum, Zakalwe
Zakalwe: Azza
Mattimeo: Q

Not voting: Jowy
If you know what I mean.
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Beat me to it Zak. I'll add the vote order:

(August 31st, 2013, 17:16)novice Wrote: Cool. Gazglum.

(August 31st, 2013, 17:19)Azarius Wrote: Also, Gazglum

(August 31st, 2013, 17:45)zakalwe Wrote: Gazglum

(August 31st, 2013, 20:14)Gazglum Wrote: Azarius,

(September 1st, 2013, 03:40)zakalwe Wrote: Azarius

(September 1st, 2013, 04:26)Azza Wrote: I'm leaning Zak right now.

(September 1st, 2013, 05:47)Jkaen Wrote: Gazglum

(September 1st, 2013, 06:37)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Gazglum

(September 1st, 2013, 09:23)Mattimeo Wrote: Azarius

> Azarius comes clean

(September 1st, 2013, 15:53)zakalwe Wrote: Unvote

(September 1st, 2013, 16:19)Gazglum Wrote: Jowy

(September 1st, 2013, 16:33)zakalwe Wrote: I'll join you on Jowy for now, Gazglum.

(September 2nd, 2013, 01:24)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Mattimeo.

(September 2nd, 2013, 00:06)Mattimeo Wrote: Gazglum

VOTES

Gazglum (4) - Mattimeo, Jkaen, Novice, Azarius
Jowy (2) - Gazglum, Zakalwe
Mattimeo (1) - Q
Zak (1) - Azza

Not voting: Jowy
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