[SPOILER] Asoka of the Vikings (Nakor & Gaspar)

[zakalwe]

Gaspar

[pling]

That last pic also needs a couple of photoshopped viking helmets.

I should've thought of that myself



Although perhaps that stretches it a little too far, might need to spend more than 5 mins on it to get it to look right

[Gaspar]

I should've thought of that myself



Although perhaps that stretches it a little too far, might need to spend more than 5 mins on it to get it to look right

Classic. I'm going to edit that into the first post, pling.

[Gold Ergo Sum]

+1

This thread has gotten increasingly entertaining since you bored me senseless for the first 50 turns.

[novice]

+1

This thread has gotten increasingly entertaining since you bored me senseless for the first 50 turns.

You need to Gaspar riled up before the fun starts. Or was that Lewwyn...

[Nakor]

Gaspar, feel free to end turn, don't have the time to take a look today.

[DMOC]

I'm very interested to see how he reacts to that, so feel free to send it off.
If things go wrong, I'll decline all knowledge about the message and will try to smooth things over... :neenernee

You're not going to try and get a NAP with LP until turn 300? Unheard of!

[Gaspar]

+1

This thread has gotten increasingly entertaining since you bored me senseless for the first 50 turns.

That basically coincided with us ending PBEM12. That game was such a boring slog that I think it sucked away my love of Civ. I can't speak for Nakor, but ending that made all my threads more entertaining. Even if you don't like FFH, I highly recommend my FFH2PBEM7 thread for humor value.

You need to Gaspar riled up before the fun starts. Or was that Lewwyn...

Riling up Lewwyn = war. Riling up Gaspar = over the top antics.

Gaspar, feel free to end turn, don't have the time to take a look today.

Done.

You're not going to try and get a NAP with LP until turn 300? Unheard of!

[Gaspar]

We also got a fairly interesting email from plako.

Hi Nakor,

Not much news at the moment. Luddite and Locke has said they're intrested. Locke probably will be occupied, but maybe he could contribute something in the reasonable time frame.

I'm beelining towards Rifling and just got Machinery so I can build highly promoted CKNs in masses.

I've tried to warm up my relationship with Rego without much success. I think we should not try to get him involved now. We could reconsider it in a bit later, but I wouldn't try to get him involved now.

I've also generated a private forum for the alliance under construction that we can hopefully use to coordinate things way better than in previous dogpile attempts. Before opening it I think we need to sign an agreement between all of us that could have these elements:
* Confidentiality - No leaks to other nations (unless approved by others ;-)
* Openess - Liberal sharing of info relevant to our common goal
* NAP - At minimum to T225
* Fairness - contribution affects to reward. We put contibutions and rewards openly in the table and do our best to find compromise that is as fair as possible.
* Closure - When our goals has been met we dispand the alliance and continue as individual nations. The goal needs to be set obvivously
* Anything else?

Feel free to comment. Would you be willing to commit to this kind of alliance. I'll send similar message to Locke and Luddite and see how intrested they're.

Best regards,
Plako

There's a piece of me that really doesn't like a 4 player dogpile. Primarily because too many chances for it to get screwed up. I also think rego can't be trusted at all, and he's probably been told. Given his relationship with plako and unwillingness to commit, he's probably in bed with LP. That's particularly obvious since LP has finally opened his borders to them. rego, if/when you read this after the game, you're an idiot. You're too far behind for the GLH to catch you up now, you need to slow down LP, not try and tech in peace for another 100 turns and then attack plako. By the time you obsolete GLH, Parkin, Locke, plako and us at a minimum will have Infantry if not Tanks.

Anyway, I think plako's ideas make sense. I'd like to include a couple of clauses:

If there is any unit gifting, explicit terms that those units are never used against the gifting player, and also some sort of logical hammer exchange.
I agree we need a specific end date for the alliance, but I'd also like to define an end condition (when are we stopping) and then at least 10T of cooldown NAP after the end of the alliance. Probably more like 20. I don't want our navy/army up in Egomaniacstan and Locke/plako getting frisky on our borders.
I'd like to see a predetermined land split. Primarily, who's getting what determined ahead of time. And we should get more of it since we have no land.

I do think we need to make sure everyone's committed. Obviously, Locke is going to attack Adlain, and that's going to make his commitment reduced. I worry that mackoti attacks luddite in some sort of blood feud and it just ends up being us and plako. That's a loss, we really need luddite to put pressure on an additional front.

Thoughts?

[zakalwe]

up in Egomaniacstan