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WW26: The Masquerade [Game Thread]

(July 24th, 2013, 00:19)Lady Elizabeth Wrote: I didn't demand that you mod-kill yourself. I said it would be good if you would modkill. Mod-killing yourself on purpose is cheating because it basically hands the town a free lynch in this situation.

The fact that you say "they" implies a wolf conspiracy to get you modkilled which makes no-sense if you read the thread. Only Muriel is pushing you to get mod-killed. And the only other person who talked about its me. And I think Muriel pushed you because she read your post that you would not being posting at all.

To clarify, it was Muriel and Rose screaming hysterically that I should mod-kill myself, not you. And then said that because I "quit" and then posted something afterwards I must be faking. I don't actually have much on you besides the power use being anti-town. Because you're trying to force the policy lynch and tried to fish whether I was a power role or not first.

By the way the people who actually pushed me into posting were the ones making actually constructive posts about it like bert/edith/will. BTW I watched Bert because I felt he was likely village and might be night killed for being one of the more active players. Thought this was obvious. And Will, I don't see what the point of stating town reads on players who aren't under suspicion is anyway.

Also I ironically agree with Liz that it's weird that people just ignore the possibility that wolves have a tracker/watcher (which doesn't even necessarily have to be me.) I could be a wolf and still have the night info so I'm not sure why Muriel would immediately accuse me, specifically, of guessing.
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scarlet john, do u have a restriction on ur watching? yes or no. dont tell actual restriction if u have one.
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(July 24th, 2013, 02:40)Fat Rose Wrote: What if the majority of players would have accepted your request and lynched you? Would you also suddenly cried foul and revealed that you are the watcher?

No, I was intending to quit and would just have checked out of the game if people hadn't convinced me to post what I could. Not sure why you seem unable to comprehend this. Oh wait, you don't just want me dead, you want to avoid any responsibility by screaming to the world it's all my own fault. Because you know I'm going to flip village. Scum.

Sir Percival Wrote:scarlet john, do u have a restriction on ur watching? yes or no. dont tell actual restriction if u have one.

No.
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Looks like everything's out on the table now and Will will die next night. That's unfortunate, because without all this happening, you would assume that it's Bert who had an ability that cleared Will, since Bert was the one who said Will is a villager. And most likely wolves would have killed Bert, not Will. It now looks more likely that John is indeed a watcher, but for which side? I admit it makes sense for a villager watcher to watch Bert. Bert was an obvious villager and a good contributor, so he would be a good target for the wolves to kill. So why did they not? The targeting starts making sense if wolves do have a watcher. If we had a role like the protector, he would likely be visiting Bert that night. That's why the watcher was on Bert, and the actual kill was on one of the lurkers who would be killed for sure. Next night they could kill anyone who visited Bert, or Bert himself if no-one visited him. If this theory is true, then today's reveals didn't really help the wolves except on the nature of Will's role, but they likely would have killed him anyway next night.
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And also, I've already clearly accepted that if i remained low activity I would have to be lynched at some point, so claiming that I'm trying to blame others for my low activity is fabricated nonsense as I have not done any such thing.

I didn't read anything posted pre-game start so I wasn't aware of the existence of a waiting list. If i knew there was one I'd have asked in-thread for replacement at the start of day

Finally, stop throwing insults and calling me a moron, or I will respond in kind, and I promise you won't like it at all.
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(July 24th, 2013, 03:16)Scarlet John Wrote: Finally, stop throwing insults and calling me a moron, or I will respond in kind, and I promise you won't like it at all.

If you are a villager, you are a moron. Do take that personally, it's meant to be. If you are a wolf, kudos to you, somehow you've managed to convince a few people of your innocence even in a situation like this.
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(July 24th, 2013, 02:32)Bert The Bard Wrote: Yes, Will did visit me last night, because the GM told me. The GM also told me that due to the visit I now know that Will is town. So if Will isn't town the GM is a bastard.

That sounds like a really useful role no matter who of you 2 has it (and don't tell that wink ) but then we had 3 nightkills so I guess we need any help we can get.

Which makes me wonder about the Liz/John situation now. On one hand Liz is clearly villager contrary to John (who is only likely). But I'm hesitant to kill a potential village-watcher given the clamouring of Muriel and Rose to kill him.

For the normal lynch. Since my preferred target is called innocent I put my vote on Kate the waif for now. 3 tries to make a correct vote doesn't make one an active player.
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(July 24th, 2013, 03:25)Muriel The Slow Wrote:
(July 24th, 2013, 03:16)Scarlet John Wrote: Finally, stop throwing insults and calling me a moron, or I will respond in kind, and I promise you won't like it at all.

If you are a villager, you are a moron. Do take that personally, it's meant to be. If you are a wolf, kudos to you, somehow you've managed to convince a few people of your innocence even in a situation like this.

This is NOT the right attitude for these games, Muriel.

I'm going camping, so I probably can't post much more today. Sister Mary and Kate The Waif both look like good lynches to me.
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(July 24th, 2013, 03:25)Muriel The Slow Wrote:
(July 24th, 2013, 03:16)Scarlet John Wrote: Finally, stop throwing insults and calling me a moron, or I will respond in kind, and I promise you won't like it at all.

If you are a villager, you are a moron. Do take that personally, it's meant to be. If you are a wolf, kudos to you, somehow you've managed to convince a few people of your innocence even in a situation like this.

Oh yeah? If you're a villager you're a fucking arrogant windbag with the intellectual capacity of a flea. A flea with brain cancer. That's also dead.
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(July 24th, 2013, 02:45)Scarlet John Wrote: To clarify, it was Muriel and Rose screaming hysterically that I should mod-kill myself, not you.

And I ask again: Where? You tell this lie since you revealed that I screamed that you should mod-kill yourself. I didn't. I said you wouldn't do it anyway because you are a wolf, hence we should lynch you. Difference.

Quote:And then said that because I "quit" and then posted something afterwards I must be faking. I don't actually have much on you besides the power use being anti-town. Because you're trying to force the policy lynch and tried to fish whether I was a power role or not first.

Never said that either.

Quote:By the way the people who actually pushed me into posting were the ones making actually constructive posts about it like bert/edith/will. BTW I watched Bert because I felt he was likely village and might be night killed for being one of the more active players. Thought this was obvious. And Will, I don't see what the point of stating town reads on players who aren't under suspicion is anyway.

Because it helps the village? If we know whom you find suspicious, on whom you are undecided and whom you have a town-read at it makes it easier for us to realize sudden turn-arounds without explanation. Not that we didn't discuss that like 10 games ago already...

Also, I'll quote myself now, because I still wait for answers to my questions:

(July 24th, 2013, 02:40)Fat Rose Wrote:
(July 23rd, 2013, 17:00)Scarlet John Wrote: Elizabeth could be scum actually, using the power against me when I don't have much time to defend and already offered to suicide on day 3/4 if I still had no time is clearly an anti-town move. If elizabeth is scum, however, then she has a very strong incentive to dump the ability on a policy lynch target that's unlikely to defend himself in order to avoid blame.

Your offer was an anti-town move, even more so if you are indeed a village PR. Why would you suicide and take away such a role from the village? Again, as I asked several times now: If you didn't have time at the start of this game, why didn't you tell BRick so someone from the waiting list could take over?

Quote:I'm village watcher, Will (and no one else) visited Bert last night, and you two are being completely unsubtle about it by the way.

In the circumstances i'm forced to vote for Lady Elizabeth.

Also, all this misrepresentation and demanding that I mod-kill myself instantly is over the top and scummy as hell so Fat Rose and Muriel should die too, someone shoot them thanks.

I've told that so often already, but hey, I'm fine with telling you as well: What misrepresentation did I do? Where did I demand that you mod-kill yourself? I stated that I believe what you did is a wolf-gambit. Don't try and shove your bad play onto others. You said "I'm fine with getting policy-lynched, I don't have time for this" and suddenly now you tell us you are the village-watcher? What if the majority of players would have accepted your request and lynched you? Would you also suddenly cried foul and revealed that you are the watcher?[/quote]

On that last one, you answered the last part (kinda) but not the first part.


(July 24th, 2013, 03:05)Scarlet John Wrote:
(July 24th, 2013, 02:40)Fat Rose Wrote: What if the majority of players would have accepted your request and lynched you? Would you also suddenly cried foul and revealed that you are the watcher?

No, I was intending to quit and would just have checked out of the game if people hadn't convinced me to post what I could.

So you need others to tell you "Hey, if you don't have much time, at least post what you can."? Sorry, but I have a hard time believing that you needed someone to tell you that. If you are a villager, you intended to quit and fuck the village and deny us the PR, screwing probably the balance of the game up in the process while you are at it but because two players told you the unbelievable insight of "post what you can", you suddenly changed your mind?

Quote:Not sure why you seem unable to comprehend this. Oh wait, you don't just want me dead, you want to avoid any responsibility by screaming to the world it's all my own fault. Because you know I'm going to flip village. Scum.

It is your fault. But I'm happily taking the responsibility for your lynch. I'd do it the same way again. If someone claims he has no time, suddenly has enough time to read the thread thoroughly, claims it's probably best if he gets policy lynched, suddenly claims a PR instead, claims that I asked for a policy-lynch when he himself was the one asking for it... yeah, I'll lynch such a liar any day.

And why do I get a deja-vu right now? Ahhh, right, Rob did the same thing yesterday, calling me scum as soon as he was unable to answer my questions.
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