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RB PBEM #1 - Gandhi [spoilers]

#551
November 10th, 2009, 15:48
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novice Wrote:What does it matter? It's not like you lose the overflow?
True, but I don't have enough tech in 1 turn to knock off DR. I am trying to max out my overflow.
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November 10th, 2009, 16:02
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Ruff_Hi Wrote:Almost all cities on research so that I can try and land Divine Right in 1 turn.

I'm more bugged by the "try and" grammatical construct than by the strategy. smile It's public relations spin, implying that whatever is tried is going to be successful with no other possibility. To see how the grammar doesn't work, port it to other tenses: one doesn't say "I tried and landed Divine Right" or "I have tried and have landed Divine Right". It doesn't work because the verbs are not parallel; you are not "trying Divine Right" and "landing Divine Right". The second verb is an infinitive. It's "try to". banghead wink
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November 10th, 2009, 16:34
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@T-Hawk - how do you feel about 'I tried to get off of the bus'?

But point taken. I know the right grammar (and nearly always the right speling) but I don't take the time to proof read what I type. As nearly everyone at RB should know by reading my posts by now.
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November 10th, 2009, 16:42
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November 10th, 2009, 17:04
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Ruff_Hi Wrote:@T-Hawk - how do you feel about 'I tried to get off of the bus'?

There's nothing wrong with it. It does imply that the speaker (not necessarily our Speaker) failed. If you actually did get off the bus, there's no need for the "tried"; just write "I got off the bus."

Nothing personal at you Ruff. "try and" just bothers me. lol at Ruff Ruffman though smile
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November 10th, 2009, 17:13
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Ruff_Hi Wrote:@T-Hawk - how do you feel about 'I tried to get off of the bus'?
I thought the 'tried' would throw you. I was actually talking about the 'off of'. I hate that. And I have only heard it while in America so I think it is an American thing. Why not say 'I got off the bus'? The 'of' after the 'off' is redundant.

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November 10th, 2009, 17:14
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they say: "Give it me" a lot where I am from in England and it really grinds my gears!

GIVE IT TO ME! banghead
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November 10th, 2009, 19:07
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Ruff_Hi Wrote:I thought the 'tried' would throw you. I was actually talking about the 'off of'. I hate that. And I have only heard it while in America so I think it is an American thing. Why not say 'I got off the bus'? The 'of' after the 'off' is redundant.

Hah. I omitted the "of" without even knowing that's what you were going for. I agree, "off" is already a preposition and another isn't needed.

But it can be unclear, since "off" can be a (slang) verb: "I helped Bob off a horse."... lol
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November 10th, 2009, 20:08
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Square Leg Wrote:they say: "Give it me" a lot where I am from in England and it really grinds my gears!

GIVE IT TO ME! banghead


move to the oh so lovely south? wink
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#560
November 10th, 2009, 20:24
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Hmmm ... I do use "try and" from time to time, strictly for aesthetic reasons:

"I'm going to try to get to the bus stop on time" just has too many 'to's in too small a space.

(Of course, the real solution when not being lazy is to rework the sentence - to eliminate the clumsiness instead of hiding it. "I'll try to reach the bus stop on time" is a start.)
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