[SPOILER] Jowy - Peter of Egypt (Green Game)

[Jowy]

As far as I have seen Jowy, it seems to be end of your turn. At least when I hit "End Turn" growth and production are calculated and the respective numbers updated.

Alright, thanks for taking the time to answer. If that's correct, then the third archer will be there defending if Strike attacks this turn.

I thought of another negative point for PBEM against Pitboss. Take my current situation for example, in a pitboss game Strike might just throw his stack at Anima and hope that he gets lucky with the odds, and whatever happens stays. But in a PBEM game he can throw his stack at Anima, watch what happens and then reload the game and do something else if he doesn't get lucky. I think it's wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him, or anyone else, use it to their advantage when that stack of units is pretty much all they've got going on in the game.

[MJW (ya that one)]

Alright, thanks for taking the time to answer. If that's correct, then the third archer will be there defending if Strike attacks this turn.

I thought of another negative point for PBEM against Pitboss. Take my current situation for example, in a pitboss game Strike might just throw his stack at Anima and hope that he gets lucky with the odds, and whatever happens stays. But in a PBEM game he can throw his stack at Anima, watch what happens and then reload the game and do something else if he doesn't get lucky. I think it's wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him, or anyone else, use it to their advantage when that stack of units is pretty much all they've got going on in the game.

Umm...I think it's possible to open a save in a pitboss game without a password...Slaze said so in some CFC demogame.

[Sareln]

Alright, thanks for taking the time to answer. If that's correct, then the third archer will be there defending if Strike attacks this turn.

I thought of another negative point for PBEM against Pitboss. Take my current situation for example, in a pitboss game Strike might just throw his stack at Anima and hope that he gets lucky with the odds, and whatever happens stays. But in a PBEM game he can throw his stack at Anima, watch what happens and then reload the game and do something else if he doesn't get lucky. I think it's wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him, or anyone else, use it to their advantage when that stack of units is pretty much all they've got going on in the game.

Not a very charitable view, that, especially for a casual game.

[Jowy]

Umm...I think it's possible to open a save in a pitboss game without a password...Slaze said so in some CFC demogame.

Hmm.. He's probably right. I hope the word doesn't spread on that, pitboss games are already enough of time sinks without having to deal with that! If it becomes something like C&D, something that is very advanced, but alot of people do, then those who don't do that stuff will have even a bigger disadvantage. Anyway, 1 month to Civ5, so this probably isn't worth discussing in depth

Not a very charitable view, that, especially for a casual game.

Yeah. I don't think there's many here who are that 'hardcore' to take advantage of every little thing and play to 100% best of their abilities.. Spullla comes to mind from RBP2, but otherwise most of us seem to mess around with C&D and stuff for a while, but not really sink too much time into it. Hate the game, not the player though! It's not really the player's fault that others don't play as hard as them, and it's not the player's fault that alot of advanced tricks exist in the game.

[Serdoa]

Jowy, trying to kill units and if it doesn't work reloading, is not something I would put right next to "putting more time into the game" (it the meaning of doing exact micro plans or C&D stuff), instead I would call that cheating and betraying.

[Jowy]

[SIZE="5"]Battle at Anima[/SIZE]

In light of recent simulations, I realised what Strike probably already has: Anima's walls will not crumble! His next plan is to pillage my lands, this was made dead obvious by the fact that he sacrificed a chariot to pillage my pigs next to Shiva. His main stack is going around Anima pillaging my resources (furs, corn and some road are down!). Now that he crossed the river and exited the forest, I have my first chance to take it down.



Axe vs Axe, 50% odds, won (north)
Axe vs Axe, 50% odds, won (north)
Spear vs Chariot, 99% odds, won (south)


I will heal up and then charge again.. Catapults will be on the way, but will take 13(?) turns to be researched and then some more to be built. They'll definately be needed, but axes are good for now as long as Strike's stack stays on clear ground. He'll probably move out of reach to the marble next turn.

In the south, I killed the sacrifical chariot, but ended up with low HP. Another chariot of his might take it down, but then an archer of mine can clean up. I have a worker ready to re-improve the pigs.

Revolted to Hereditary Rule and Organized Religion (1T anarchy) since I didn't have any quick builds lined up. Anima will be happy again, but unfortunately won't have much good tiles to work thx to the pillaging.

Cull and I agreed to open borders and Malakai got a great scientist.. from library specialists or TGL? I haven't paid much attention on other stuff lately.

[Jowy]

Jowy, trying to kill units and if it doesn't work reloading, is not something I would put right next to "putting more time into the game" (it the meaning of doing exact micro plans or C&D stuff), instead I would call that cheating and betraying.

I kind of agree. I think it's more comparable to C&D, espionage point calculations and so forth, than to using the worldbuilder or reading other's lurker threads. Anyway, it sucks and it SHOULD be considered cheating. Whether it already is or not, I have no clue.

[scooter]

I kind of agree. I think it's more comparable to C&D, espionage point calculations and so forth, than to using the worldbuilder or reading other's lurker threads. Anyway, it sucks and it SHOULD be considered cheating. Whether it already is or not, I have no clue.

I would absolutely consider that cheating, and I would think (hope?) most people here would agree.

[Bobchillingworth]

Reloading after poor combat rolls to game the system is "save scumming", which is a form of cheating. None of the PBEM games have mentioned it in the rules because it should be obvious for everyone to not do it.

[Jowy]

[SIZE="5"]Round 1, over![/SIZE]

Axe vs Axe, 50% odds, won
* Great General emerges !!!! *
(attached to units for heals and promos)
[COLOR="PaleGreen"]Axe vs Axe, 74,7% odds, won
Axe vs Chariot, 76,1% odds, won[/COLOR]
Spear vs Spear, 68,1% odds, lost
[COLOR="PaleGreen"]Spear vs Spear, 68,1% odds, won
War Chariot vs Chariot, 79,7% odds, won
Archer vs Chariot, 52,9% odds, won
Archer vs Spear, 99,6% odds, won[/COLOR]



Got really lucky here. First off, Strike moved his stack on my (only ) cottage instead of the marble. The bad news is that he managed to tear it completely down, but the good news is that now I could attack his stack again. However, my units hadn't fully healed from the last turn, so I only had one full hp axeman. So I could only take down max 1 unit, if that!

I threw it in and won. Then, the great general was born in Anima!
I wish I could say this was all planned, but I had no idea I was this close to getting one.
I attached it to the lowest HP axeman, and then promoted units this way:
- Axeman: Combat I, Shock (vs axe)
- Axeman: Combat I, Combat II, GG (vs chariot)
- Spear: Combat I (vs spear)
- Spear: Combat I (vs spear)
- War Chariot: Combat I (vs chariot)
- Archer: Combat I (vs chariot)
- Archer: City Garrison I (vs wounded spear)
- Archer: City Garrison I

Not only did I get the promos, but also heals for the axes.



Gotta start preparing for round two. Whipped an axe from Anima since it didn't have improved tiles to work anymore. I might sneak out a settler towards northeast next to catch up a little, but sadly I can't go full on economy and expansion yet. I have the southern worker improving the pigs (Strike didn't attack with the chariot, he moved it 2E). The spear is guarding it. The two northern workers are re-improving the corn.



This war has really cost me heavily. I was already behind by the time it started, now I'm pretty much fucked. But atleast I'm still alive.