Codenames: Play by Forum

[BRickAstley]

Sentence	Check	Pants	Reimbursement	College
Cloak	Model	Gem	Yard	Opaque
Scubadiver	Chicken	Drink	Bark	Aircraft
Copper	Charge	Space	Ivory	Ginger
Key	Web	Life	Dominoes	Europe

[Khan]

(Playing along at home)

Enveloped: I figured Web and Cloak were obvious ones. Bark and Space were the two maybe's I was considering.

I did not even think of check. I wonder now if what we Brits call a "cheque" is called "check" elsewhere? I could imagine a cheque being 'enveloped' as in literally inside an envelope? That precarious train of thought would not have occurred naturally though, rather me trying to rationalise that unusual guess. Hilarious first round.

[ipecac]

Maybe "Space" too, but check is definitely something I'd consider...

Glad to know it wasn't just me

[SevenSpirits]

Heh, I was going for: Cloak, Web, Scuba diver, Space, and willing to accept Bark or Pants as a casualty.

Were you thinking about an envelope, ipecac? Because as I read the rules, you're not allowed to give pun clues, so I thought that was right out as an interpretation. (Clues must be about the meaning of the word.)

The reason for "enveloped" rather than "enveloping" was to raise scuba diver in the list of possible guesses.

[SevenSpirits]

Lots of possibilities: scuba diver, bark, reimbursement, even pants. Baseball analogy: is it better to be a singles hitter and be more likely to make contact, or to try for the home run with a high risk of striking out? The former, I think, but I'd like to hear the opinions of the experienced players.

The last game I played I went only for 2s and 1s. In this case though I thought the board looked a lot better for the other team than for us, and - especially as the team that has 1 more turn and 1 more thing to guess - I think that means we want to make the game last fewer turns, and make some riskier plays. Riskier doesn't mean risking the assassin though (I wouldn't have done this clue if I realized that was a possibility) - what I mean is going for a play that looks like it will average +3 but may be +4 or +2, because it's possible that you consider enemy words better than our own words.

[Khan]

Heh, I was going for: Cloak, Web, Scuba diver, Space, and willing to accept Bark or Pants as a casualty.

Were you thinking about an envelope, ipecac? Because as I read the rules, you're not allowed to give pun clues, so I thought that was right out as an interpretation. (Clues must be about the meaning of the word.)

The reason for "enveloped" rather than "enveloping" was to raise scuba diver in the list of possible guesses.

I think your clue was really rather good and you were let down by bad luck.

[ipecac]

Heh, I was going for: Cloak, Web, Scuba diver, Space, and willing to accept Bark or Pants as a casualty.

Were you thinking about an envelope, ipecac? Because as I read the rules, you're not allowed to give pun clues, so I thought that was right out as an interpretation. (Clues must be about the meaning of the word.)

Yeah, an envelope sprang to mind. How is it a pun?

[BRickAstley]

Because as I read the rules, you're not allowed to give pun clues, so I thought that was right out as an interpretation. (Clues must be about the meaning of the word.)

Giving a Clue: The spymaster will post a clue to get teammates to guess a word or words of their color. He does so by giving both a one-word clue that is related to one or more of the words in the grid, and a number which tells his teammates how many words are related to that clue. For instance, he might say "Delay 3." That means that there are three words that are related to the word "Delay". He can say ONLY those two things: one word and one number. They must bold this to make it clear that is their official clue. After that, they are done posting for that turn.

The spymaster may give a clue as above, but offer no further commentary while a round is ongoing. If you are a spymaster, take care to review the typical-ish rules for giving clues in word guessing games listed below.
1. Your clue must be about the meaning of the words.
(e.g. You can't use your clue to talk about the letters in a word or its position on the table. GLAND is NOT a valid clue for ENGLAND. You can't tie BED, BUG, and BOW together with a clue of "B 3".)

Your clue must be about the meaning of the
words. You can't use your clue to talk about
the letters in a word or its position on the table.
Gland is not a valid clue for ENGLAND. You
can't tie BUG, BED, and BOW together with
a clue like b: 3 nor with a clue like three: 3.

As I read that, I see nothing that outlaws pun-ny connections, though the focus on the meaning of the word can be confusing I suppose. I think that's more to keep out clues like "B 3" than to enforce adherance to strict definitions of the clue words.

[Psillycyber]

The important thing to consider with a clue that has ambiguous meaning is: does your interpretation make sense in light of the number given? I mean, sure, interpreting "envelope" as referring to an envelope and thus alluding to a word like "check" is understandable, but before making a final pick, you've got to consider whether there are three other words that a reasonable person could associate an envelope with. If not, then it is a sign that your interpretation of the clue and the clue-givers intentions are not on the same page. Then you can go back to the drawing board and consider, "What else might the clue-giver have meant by "envelope"? "Envelope" as a verb, perhaps?" Then see if there are at least 4 words that could be reasonably associated with that.

Anyways, understandable. So, Team Red is currently up to give a clue for this next round, right?

[BRickAstley]

Well, it'a also possible for a clue to be potentially interpreted different ways to try and get different words. I've used the clue 'Boston 2' before to get a person to guess 'New York' and 'Bomb', and I don't see that being against the rules as I'm reading them.

I need to get a grid ready, and am waiting to see if anyone else on Red is volunteering to be the Spymaster, unless I missed someone saying they would.