Extremely busy now with school work -- will try to comment tonight or tomorrow in detail. I'm happy with our progress thus far, we haven't expanded the fastest, but I'm sure we're going to get the cities we found developed quickly, and we also have a strong road network.
here are some more detailed screenshots that may interest you. It was interesting to meet your scout, I have a WTF moment seeing third unit in third square, lol. I was also very relieved to see a have horse nearby this turn, I was afraid my closest horse was the one I saw in your screenshot and that Yuufo will grab it soon. I have no idea where he settled his city #5, but it only means it is not on my doorstep.
I think both Yuufo and Orgy nized got Pottery this turn, but this is just a guess, not based on demo hacking. Orgy capitol grown to size 5 this turn. I do not know who found new religion. Perhaps it was actually Orgy nized or Yuufo? they both have mysticism ... unfortunately, I did not have time now for detailed demohacking nor Maga's skill
Our scout moves wasn't perfect in this game. And after we decide to move him back to our land - CareBears block our way back. So, we have to move him east instead.
Could you help us move him safe to contact NativeAmericans? Or even ask them if they have a unit nearby for faster contact?
City#5 on T50 is alarming. But expenses should be big for them.
I think it could be India research Fishing on T50, not Pottery. They have some seafood not far away and it would be faster Pottery after Fishing. And I doubt they could complete Pottery in 7 turns (religion on T43 and most likely no gold in treasure) with all that city costs they have. I could be wrong, tho.
As for strategy resources, its my understanding that all team have 2 sources of each (Horses and Copper) nearby. Still, CareBears have nicer both copper location, in my opinion.
Here screenshot, in case you didn't explore there.
I'd guess India's city#4 and #5 somewhere in that area.
Quote:Maga Civ
11:05 AM (3 hours ago)
to me
Hi,
i think you are very right, my pottery hypothesis was just a late night guess. It seems that Orgy Nized found another religion - their (#1) GNP spiked to surreal levels . But you see their graphs so you know.
I would gladly guide you to meet Native Americans (suttree/Oxyphenbutazone), they actually have scout in the area. Just continue going East and then follow my borders North and you will meet them .
It seems that our relations are developing very well - and we may be able to establish trade routes even without Yuufo's collaboration, through the coast. Would you be interested? We could trade resources and get additional income.
Cheers,
Asterix
Quote:Maga Civ
11:28 AM (2 hours ago)
to me
BTW, what do you mean by Yuufo blocking you? Is it impossible for some reason to go around his culture?
Quote:Dick DMOC <dick76dmoc@gmail.com>
1:22 PM (1 hour ago)
to Maga
Hi Asterix,
Thank you for helping us contact SutOxy.
Again, I'm sorry our team putting EP on you at the moment, but we have EP agreement with CareBears. Once we contact LP or SutOxy we will stop putting EP on you.
If you need CareBears graphs we could send you screenshots.
I'm agree to prolong our NAP, if you like, but I had to check with DMOC (our team leader). NAP is just a formality anyway, cause I see you as a long term ally in this game. We are both agree LP is a favorite to win and IMP India could be a pain for both our teams.
My first thought about religion was the same - LP founded it. Another possibilities is Oxy or Darius team. But I think its LP most likely. We don't see their graphs, but rival best GNP pretty insane, I agree. And he grows cities pretty fast too.
Our relations are developing very well, indeed. We are wellcome establishing trade routes with you asap. I'd guess, since we both CRE, our teams aiming for fast Writing. Our ETA on Writing should be in the early 60th. Establishing trade route via Nothern coast is an option, but we need Sailing, some more scouting and probably OB with India.
Its too early to talk about military cooperation, but our team is open to it in the future.
I'd guess all 5 team on our continent prefer peaceful expansion and not arm race with ancient units. Other continent (I'm assuming its 5x2 layout on this map) is different. There is AGG Rome, so its a safe bet to expect other 5 teams (or at least 3 of 5) will start buffing military pretty early.
OTOH, there is some soft target on the other continent, in my opinion, if I correctly understand score and timing for city founded. And not so much on our continent.
About CareBears blocking our scout. As I said, we were moving him back to explore our land and fogbust, but right before we get through, India planted city#3 in the south. After planted city#4 they informed us its in the north and our scout can't go back. We are look at the map and decide its true most likely.
Need advice about CM/Stanford tiles, 4th worker and northern warrior.
- CM/Stanford tiles (food distribution between 2 cities):
Check this post and tell me what option you prefer. I'd like to go option2 here.
- Our northern worker and warrior action depends on question: do we want to get 1st chariot on T58 or T59 is ok as well?
If it T58 for chariot: we move worker outside our borders, he could be covered by warrior and there is India's scout in that area. Worker road GH close to city#4 location then come back and chop chariot on T58. Its not completely safe for Cow and Gold tiles, but its safe enough to gamble. If we want chariot on T58.
If we can delay chariot to T59 its safer for now. Worker will road plain tile inside our culture, continue to GHroad for city#4 connected and we could chop chariot by another worker on T59.
After thinking a bit more about other teams. I'd guess its LP founded Hinduism (Meditation) and he's aiming PH -> Oracle -> MC -> Colossus.
I'd guess CareBears is another contender here if their last tech was PH and not Fishing, but not sure they could research PH in 7 turns.
Anyways, we got interesting neighbours. Wish we had team Pony instead, oh well.
(October 2nd, 2013, 06:03)TeddyKGB Wrote: I didn't finish T51. Move a scout and 3 workers.
Need advice about CM/Stanford tiles, 4th worker and northern warrior.
- CM/Stanford tiles (food distribution between 2 cities):
Check this post and tell me what option you prefer. I'd like to go option2 here.
- Our northern worker and warrior action depends on question: do we want to get 1st chariot on T58 or T59 is ok as well?
If it T58 for chariot: we move worker outside our borders, he could be covered by warrior and there is India's scout in that area. Worker road GH close to city#4 location then come back and chop chariot on T58. Its not completely safe for Cow and Gold tiles, but its safe enough to gamble. If we want chariot on T58.
If we can delay chariot to T59 its safer for now. Worker will road plain tile inside our culture, continue to GHroad for city#4 connected and we could chop chariot by another worker on T59.
As I said before, I support option 2, getting the first chariot out quicker. I don't mind putting a worker out of our borders, as long as we have a warrior there.
(October 2nd, 2013, 07:37)TeddyKGB Wrote: After thinking a bit more about other teams. I'd guess its LP founded Hinduism (Meditation) and he's aiming PH -> Oracle -> MC -> Colossus.
I'd guess CareBears is another contender here if their last tech was PH and not Fishing, but not sure they could research PH in 7 turns.
Anyways, we got interesting neighbours. Wish we had team Pony instead, oh well.
No way that Care Bears founded a second religion already ... if there's going to be another candidate, its probably Orgynized. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since I hope it means we get more random religion spread.
(October 2nd, 2013, 08:01)DMOC Wrote: As I said before, I support option 2, getting the first chariot out quicker. I don't mind putting a worker out of our borders, as long as we have a warrior there.
Ok, I'll put worker action aiming to chariot on T58 from MIT.
There is different options with CM/Stanford micro, tho. I'll go with more food in CM (option 2), if you dont say otherwise.
(October 2nd, 2013, 08:01)DMOC Wrote: No way that Care Bears founded a second religion already ... if there's going to be another candidate, its probably Orgynized. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since I hope it means we get more random religion spread.
Congratulation on religion (T43) and 5th city on T50. Well played, sirs.
DMOC is very busy right now, so I'm (TeddyKGB) send this msg.
Our formal NAP is expired on T60. Would you be interested to prolong it till T75? T90? More?
Are you interested of talking about borders agreement between our teams?
Did you made contact contact with other teams except M&M?
We didn't.
Do you need any help to guide your scout around our borders?
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. But you see their graphs so you know.
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