WW38: The Story of the Stories

[Meiz]

Jowy has been really quiet today; I remember something about a claim from him but I need to go back and re-read it. Has he done anything else today?

He claimed roleblocking Zak, thus preventing wolf-Zak of making the night kill. This claim also puts doubt in Krill preventing nightkill on Lewwyn.

Lewwyn, you seem to suspect Ichabod. I didn't catch anything on my readthrough today, so what is it that you see as being off about him?

I wrote this poorly. What I mean is I didn't see the case that seems to he intentionally bussed Gazglum to gain town cred. Is that what your suspicions are or is there something else?

I'm guessing you're mixing my read with Lewwyn. I was online all of the time during deadline, so it's easy to recognize the trend that was arising against Gaz. I don't find it that hard to believe one wolf considering to bus him at that point. So this is no real evidence against Ichabod, it's just not enough to clear him in my eyes (or anyone else for that matter). I'm just going against Ichabod due to finding several of his attacks bad / "unfair" (for example against Goreripper, attacks against you, attack against me), which is something I don't think town-Ichabod does.

[pindicator]

Okay, I'll be sure to read the log a little closer. I've only skimmed it. But I need to go to bed

[Lewwyn]

On calling my vote a meta read: maybe I have misunderstood/miguessed the odds of a scum/town pair? Anyway, as I also pointed out Matt did blow a once off kill ability on Zak which was strange/scummy AND lurked heavily day 1/didnt contribute but was clearly active in QT.

Well killing Zak could go either way. He could have killed Zak as scum because Zak was after him and because he knew I suspected Zak. Or he could have killed Zak as a villager because he saw Zak as scummy and me, goreripper, jowy also thought he was scummy. There is a basis to thinking he could be scum especially since Zak was coming after him in part because Zak was using the argument that Matt was trying to meta clear himself and he might have seen that as a scum argument.

Remember too that Gazglum was looking for me to reveal him to be a lynch suspect. That could be a double blind or it could be a legit attempt at a mislynch. If Matt's a villager after that attempt, Zak's meta argument could be seen as a secondary attempt to get him meta-lynched.


But like I said, I want to make the reads and lynch based on reads. I can see the actions Matt took both ways. Villager and scum. I'd rather relying on reading his posts and reads instead. And based on those, he is not the scummiest player.

[Shadeun]

Adrien claimed earlier that he switched me and pindi, so pindicator was jailed not me and any action directed at me became directed at pindi.

Ok I missed that then. This then ties adrien and krill though, if 1 is scum the other is likely also?

neighbors right? I've been a town/town neighbor before. This is nothing to base your read for IMO.

I got that from Lewwyns dump saying last time he was neighbour he was with scum. Assumed chances were much better than random. Perhaps incorrectly.

[Meiz]

Jowy has been really quiet today; I remember something about a claim from him but I need to go back and re-read it. Has he done anything else today?

He claimed roleblocking Zak, thus preventing wolf-Zak of making the night kill. This claim also puts doubt in Krill preventing nightkill on Lewwyn.

To clarify, it put the doubt at the time of his claim. Of course we now know that's not true at all.

[pindicator]

Krill: I thought Lewwyn confirmed he wasn't jailed? Middle of page 60. doesn't that mean Krill lied about Jailing lewwyn?

The jail was directed to Pindicator, thus Lewwyn was not jailed.

Yes, and I was definitely jailed. My 1-off ability for Pooh was not used up last night.

Lewwyn, you seem to suspect Ichabod. I didn't catch anything on my readthrough today, so what is it that you see as being off about him?

I wrote this poorly. What I mean is I didn't see the case that seems to he intentionally bussed Gazglum to gain town cred. Is that what your suspicions are or is there something else?

I'm guessing you're mixing my read with Lewwyn. I was online all of the time during deadline, so it's easy to recognize the trend that was arising against Gaz. I don't find it that hard to believe one wolf considering to bus him at that point. So this is no real evidence against Ichabod, it's just not enough to clear him in my eyes (or anyone else for that matter). I'm just going against Ichabod due to finding several of his attacks bad / "unfair" (for example against Goreripper, attacks against you, attack against me), which is something I don't think town-Ichabod does.

That's the only thing that's bugging me about him too. Could just be bad reads that he's latching too hard on to? Town get to make bad reads, too. God knows I have.

Okay, seriously going to bed now.

[Lewwyn]

I think part of it is that the RP element of Holden is that he puts a bit of edge into his arguments the way Holden would.

[Shadeun]

But like I said, I want to make the reads and lynch based on reads. I can see the actions Matt took both ways. Villager and scum. I'd rather relying on reading his posts and reads instead. And based on those, he is not the scummiest player.

I'm new to the whole town thing (scum my only game with you Comrade) but clearly. Over and Over. I have demonstrated my reads are not very good, just trying to contribute. Problem is (I think) the more I write the more you find a piece that 'puts you off'.

This is not a misinformation campaign, where I'm dumping huge amounts of text in order to ingratiate myself. Its me to doing my level best to work out who is scum based on one really weird all scum game so far. And also show my participation so we don't waste a lynch on me.

[Meiz]

Well, if he gets the wolves lynched down the road, I'm willing to reconsider. I kind of doubt that at the moment, seeing I'm one of his bigger targets.

[Meiz]

His push for Shadeun near the deadline was horrible.