PBEM 74a/74b- Mini-Tournament

[Jowy]

I don't like water maps in base BTS

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

The notion of a winners' game is pretty neat; I'm not certain what the point of a losers' game would be. That said, I submit that this is an issue probably best left until a and b conclude.

I do like the notion of a and b taking place with the same map and settings. Will we be told what the size of the map is for sandboxing purposes?

Selfishly, I'd like a lush map; it takes a skilled player to make things work in a resource-poor setting, but any fool can manage when resources are bountiful :P

Losers game would be a game of more equal skill to enjoy and learn in.

Depending on what happens over Easter I might be able to make something, but I would want to know what I am making first.

Flat map is a bit more awkward to make work but could be done I suppose.

[El Grillo]

I'm happy to leave the map to the mapmaker, but I don't think it'd make sense to have a map that's 50+% water when we've just discounted ORG and Vikings and Dutch. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation

[gingereagle1969]

I'm happy to leave the map to the mapmaker, but I don't think it'd make sense to have a map that's 50+% water when we've just discounted ORG and Vikings and Dutch. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation

Yeah, the mapmaker will have to adjust the points system to match their map

I would hope that any islands are big enough for a viable city. thinking I should've taken a screenshot of Bob's Cow-island city in PBEM72 - 1 tile and only had Whales as the other resource in the BFC

[AdrienIer]

I'm ok with not too much water, it's more that if there's almost no water it'll be kind of dull

[Khan]

Another point that has been raised is whether the points system allows duplicates to be picked. I had assumed we would now snake pick (without duplicates) once a first player has been decided. However, I know at least one other person assumed we would just PM our selection to the mapmaker/neutral lurker within the constraints of the points system.

I would vote for snake pick, but if others really wanted the other option (with duplicates), please say as I don't want to ruin anyones experience.

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

If you are set on a flat map fin should probably be raised to 5 as expansion will be quite cheap, and exp raised to 4 probably too.

[Commodore]

If you are set on a flat map fin should probably be raised to 5 as expansion will be quite cheap, and exp raised to 4 probably too.

Imperialistic is underpointed in any case, too, needs to be way up. That point system was for a toroidal high-water map...

[Khan]

Commodore it was indeed, but it has been edited since then (ORG discounted, IMP's cost increased etc.). We're currently working off of:

4: FIN
3: EXP, CRE, India, Inca
2: SPI, IND, ORG
1: PHI, IMP, Civs that start with Agriculture Tech
0: CHA, AGG, PRO, All other civs

I agree this is not perfect. Perhaps the lurkers/map maker(s) can make a thread, discuss what they think is best and then offer us what they feel is appropriate as a point scoring option?

[gingereagle1969]

Another point that has been raised is whether the points system allows duplicates to be picked. I had assumed we would now snake pick (without duplicates) once a first player has been decided. However, I know at least one other person assumed we would just PM our selection to the mapmaker/neutral lurker within the constraints of the points system.

I would vote for snake pick, but if others really wanted the other option (with duplicates), please say as I don't want to ruin anyones experience.

another version could be we email 4 combos, within the points constraints and in order of preference, to the mapmaker/neutral lurker so we don't get duplicates (unless all 4 of us choose the same 4 in the same order)