(Spoilers) Superdeath's Mean Green Eating Machine

[superdeath]

I know you're desperate for commerce, but the coast without lighthouse hurts. I would work the iron until the fish is available (maybe a worker, if you need one?). Another workboat can't hurt either if you want to explore the northern coast. About your plan: why Alphabet instead of Mathematics? You need Construction and Calendar quite early. About praetorians: I feel it's late, especially with this kind of solid land and low difficulty (> faster technological advancement). What you need are informations about your neighbors: some scouts, diplomatic relations to other civs, graphs.

Dont really need anymore workers. Working coast for the commerce, and next turn a fresh grassland cottage will be up and running for the city to work for 3t till the fish is hooked up. Im not concerned with exploring the northern coast just yet, and a workboat im fairly sure would cost me some $ in costs.

I disagree, i dont need math, i dont need construction anytime soon, ( although id LOVE calendar, i need currency ASAP ) Alphabet with its build research allows me to not have to keep building units and driving my econ down.  Currency allows me to build wealth which is one of the most broken/good things in civ ( imo ) I didnt get FIN because plemo ( who telegraphed HG by planting a shitload of cities ) grabbed Ragnar of Netherlands which is still a completely wack-ass pick. And praets without AGG are fairly neutered. However, I think with my still somehow top in the world production, i think i can eat one of my neighbors. Wont be easy, but its Something to look forward to. I dont have a ton of cottage land, but i do have food and hills.

In a no-diplo game, and people that arent my neighbors, i honestly couldnt care less about meeting them. My scout died super early, and other than my scouting workboat in the middle of the donut, im making no other real effort towards meeting others at this time. Known Tech Bonus's be damned. ( and graphs are sooooooo much lower than everything else on the to-do list ) My neighbors, and my neighbors-neighbors are the only ones i care about right now. Those that fail to respond to my build up ( whenever it happens ) will be subject to extermination. Or, ill just build freely and take over the center donut, and eventually eat a neighbor with knights that i "somehow" get before the rest of them. One is fin/phi and the other is phi.... UHHHHH.... can i have some more gold El Grillo? Just a small donation.


I think if i had gotten Ragnar, id be down 1 city, but up at least 2 techs from where i am right now and not anywhere near as dire in the econ as i am. Really sucks. BUT i also didnt want to just go the gravy-train route of pb44 with what ended up being El Grillo's pick. Sigh. So many thoughts about this pb.

[superdeath]

Ya know, being only a couple turns from no longer having the peace treaty in effect... this conga line of axes is a little bit nerve wracking.

[superdeath]

Making lots of decisions.. Will keep lurkers in the dark till i reveal what they are

[Suite]

Mustang is actually a very decent production site (but it needs the lighthouse soon). Combined with Supra in the east and some occasionally added mines () you could muster a reasonably sized force in short time. So that would be my guess.

Quick fun fact, because I can't help it: Over there in the german forums we had a somewhat extravagant user ten years ago. His name was ENDBOSS and he wrote a lot of bad rambling about his games and playstyle and philosophical nonsense - at the beginning as a total newbie to the game up to a quite solid civver who managed to beat the AI on Emperor/Immortal. As he was absolutely not used to the general abbreviations and slang, he "invented" terms (which turned out to be not nearly as new as he thought, because he simply didn't know them) such as KOHLEBASE (hard to translate in a meaningful sense, it's like BUCKS BASE or DOUGH BASE) and MEGAPRODUKTION, which you should be able to understand quite well...it's on your marker for Toyota Supra a few pages before :D At some stage of his development, ENDBOSS was deeply convinced that you need MEGAPRODUKTIONEN to win the game, that is, many of them. He even defined the conditions of such a place: It's not a site where you get the maximum of hammers as you would probably think (with water protection wall etc.) but rather a city as small as possible (!: because of the feared maintenance!) with as many hammers as possible at the same time. In foodhammer values: 16 food should fuel 20 hammers output per turn.

Long paragraph short: Mustang fulfills the very ENDBOSSian-condition of a MEGAPRODUKTION if it works lighthoused seafood, rice, the plains tile and five hills :D So that spans the bridge from Supra to Mustang in memoriam ENDBOSS. But instead of just babbling some old insider stories, I think you can designate both of these cities to early production powerhouses while all others focus on commerce most of the time.

Is there no way for Dodge to grow into the newest cottage? You have ivory and gems hooked and even if the sixth citizen were unhappy, he would not consume the two food while building the settler.

The culture in Pontiac is a bit luxurious, don't you think? It adds only one lake in ten turns and cost 30 hammers which could have been almost an axe.

Looking forward to see the first praetorian in action

[superdeath]

Mustang is actually a very decent production site (but it needs the lighthouse soon). Combined with Supra in the east and some occasionally added mines () you could muster a reasonably sized force in short time. So that would be my guess.

Is there no way for Dodge to grow into the newest cottage? You have ivory and gems hooked and even if the sixth citizen were unhappy, he would not consume the two food while building the settler.

The culture in Pontiac is a bit luxurious, don't you think? It adds only one lake in ten turns and cost 30 hammers which could have been almost an axe.

Looking forward to see the first praetorian in action

Sailing cant come fast enough lol. Didn't know about the not consuming food part while building a settler. But yeah, it would be unhappy for... i THINK 2 more turns or so, which is why i just swapped to the settler now.

I had started building that monument during the time where i didnt need more units due to costs. Ill probably end up whipping the monument into maybe a lighthouse OR a praet depending on how im feeling at the time.

[Suite]

I edited just a bit into my last post. Hope it gives you a smile and if not, nvm.

[superdeath]

I edited just a bit into my last post. Hope it gives you a smile and if not, nvm.

was an interesting read thats for sure. lol

[Raskolnikov]

Ill probably end up whipping the monument into maybe a lighthouse OR a praet depending on how im feeling at the time.

Please don't do that. one pop whipping a worker to improve the food to hammer ratio is OK, but this is not. Just remove the monument if you don't need it and 2 pop whip your praet/lh.

edit: rechecking the pic, it's almost done so maybe just finish it.

[superdeath]

Ill probably end up whipping the monument into maybe a lighthouse OR a praet depending on how im feeling at the time.

Please don't do that. one pop whipping a worker to improve the food to hammer ratio is OK, but this is not. Just remove the monument if you don't need it and 2 pop whip your praet/lh.

edit: rechecking the pic, it's almost done so maybe just finish it.

Ended up whipping the library... i think? Working on a lighthouse and will probably end up working some scientists for awhile, or maybe something else. Elsewhere, my Grand-Plan tm is going well. Ill keep you guys informed when the time comes. Just know that im having fun.

[superdeath]

t-minus.... idk. 15t till i post everything? Sounds like a plan.