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Gillette Turn Discussion
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Do you have any idea if Trolls have Metal Casting yet? Running into Triremes would be problematic
 We could also just allow scouting in our next NAP with M3, so they could move their cats to the front lines--they do play right before us  Have you made initial contact with the new TEAM yet?
Turn 118
Going for a quick turn here. Snuck into Troll lands to grab a snapshot, then left again, with them none the wiser   Is that the Great Library?  Anyway the cities are back on to infrastructure - mostly courthouses. We need another couple of settlers - BOG can start producing one next turn, maybe Smooth or Halberd can provide the other? I'm saving money on Machinery at the moment, but thought I'd highlight the bee-line to Liberalism if anyone thinks the game is going to last through turn 200.  Power  Demos  [/quote]
Completed: RB Demogame - Gillette, PBEM46, Pitboss 13, Pitboss 18, Pitboss 30, Pitboss 31, Pitboss 38, Pitboss 42, Pitboss 46, Pitboss 52 (Pindicator's game), Pitboss 57
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February 16th, 2013, 19:19
(This post was last modified: February 16th, 2013, 19:21 by Old Harry.)
Turn 119
Trolls still have some gaps left to fill in... Maybe that helps TEAM? If they can take a city or two over here there won't be a lot of cultural pressure on them?  Slight change of plan in Occam - building a monastery gets us an extra 7 beakers a turn, the extra health from the aqueduct would allow us about one extra specialist - about 3 x 1.75 = 4.5 beakers, and it costs 30 hammers more... So monastery first, then aqueduct? We'll have fur hooked by the time Occam grows onto the hill cottage.  We could 2-pop whip the settler next turn, for H or I, or wait two turns until it's just a 1-pop whip. Either way trying to grow back whilst still working specialists is going to take a while - when possible I think we should be working an engineer as well as a priest, as it speeds up the GP by 8 turns and I'd value a great engineer for rushing a wonder (for example Taj?).  Settler soon:  I think D, A and B are the choices for this one - how about D first so we can chop the trees from B for the granary and get more intercontinental trade? Popping the borders so we can work fish won't be easy though. Maybe A is the better bet - everything is first ring...  More fishermen please!  Whip the library in a little while  Foil grows onto a cottage next turn Would be useful to build a plantation on the sugar - should we think about calendar? Construction would be useful too if M3 won't loan us some catapults. I don't think we need guilds if we attack Trolls with cats and Zerks, but if we do bee-line it I think we'll get knights it about t137. We're way ahead of everyone else on that particular tech path...  Lets chop some forests into this forge, then whip a settler, then carry on with the market and have a whip cycle using the water (and perhaps another cottage or two...  We'll whip the trading post next turn, then grow to size 8 in the next ten turns. So we may need more MP units or Calendar.  Jemmy will work the third grass forest instead of the corn for the next two two turns - losing 6 food to gain 2 hammers allows us to whip the forge before a chop comes in to get the 25% bonus. It seems odd, but I think the maths works...  And Katana will donate the wheat to Epee after growing and probably use the forests to build the forge.  So the questions this turn are: - Where to send the next settlers, H or I and A, B or D? (or somewhere else completely?) - Tech path - Calendar or Construction or HBR-Feudalism-Guilds? (or something else completely?) Edit: we should get research visibility on Trolls next turn - maybe that will help with the decision! Power - M3 have built some units - the slow response over the NAP obviously worried them. TEAM seem to have done something similar...  Demos - That GNP is very nice... I'm feeling all confident about our chances at the moment! 
Completed: RB Demogame - Gillette, PBEM46, Pitboss 13, Pitboss 18, Pitboss 30, Pitboss 31, Pitboss 38, Pitboss 42, Pitboss 46, Pitboss 52 (Pindicator's game), Pitboss 57
In progress: Rimworld
And after the turn rolled we see that Trolls are learning Alphabet - they'll have it in five turns. So we probably don't want to finish machinery off until we're ready to start building Zerks...
Completed: RB Demogame - Gillette, PBEM46, Pitboss 13, Pitboss 18, Pitboss 30, Pitboss 31, Pitboss 38, Pitboss 42, Pitboss 46, Pitboss 52 (Pindicator's game), Pitboss 57
In progress: Rimworld
Remember that cats cannot bombard or attack off ships. Galley-based bezerkers are great for mobility next to the sea. They are not great for sustained pushes and taking cities without losses. I wouldn't mind knights, especially against their inland border cities, like the gold city. Since neither of us can field war elephants, knights are solid, if expensive.
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Yeah, Monastery's definitely better in that case--hooray for micromanagement!
Thinking about it, I like the idea of D first--It can borrow the fish until it grows onto the crab, just don't forget the Missionary. On a somewhat related note to that, when is Gladius getting cottaged fully? I like A then B afterward, and by that time we should be in Zerk-building mode  We'll see what path we take based on what techs Trolls have after they research Alphabet--speaking of which, their tech path seems really, really strange--at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the only way they're keeping up is by just pumping out a million archers or something--what is the most efficient hammer-to-power rating at this point in the game? Could we build that many knights and get them into position by T141, or would they be the second wave? Also, if Trolls don't have Metal Casting, they wouldn't see if we have Machinery, right? We don't need Calendar since HR means we don't have happiness problems--other than that all Calendar does is allow MoM (which someone got already, right?) and lead to Astronomy (which we don't want), right? Or am I missing another reason? I don't see any reason we couldn't farm that tile right now even. That seems like a lot of settlers--I think the Halberd settler will be the last one on the penninsula (B?), and by that time we should be building military, right? How much would Horse Archers help in any war effort--we could pick up a cheap HBR as a filler while we're waiting for Alphabet possibly--we could be boring SP minded people and go towards the Liberalism path as well  (of course, then we'll find out Troll's next tech is friggin Education at this point, and that they still lack any military tech past Bronze Working and Archery )
February 18th, 2013, 18:49
(This post was last modified: February 18th, 2013, 18:50 by Old Harry.)
(February 16th, 2013, 21:09)Merovech Wrote: Remember that cats cannot bombard or attack off ships. Galley-based bezerkers are great for mobility next to the sea. They are not great for sustained pushes and taking cities without losses. I wouldn't mind knights, especially against their inland border cities, like the gold city. Since neither of us can field war elephants, knights are solid, if expensive. I think we need Iron Working for crossbows if we plan to keep any cities. The cats would be if we chose not to get knights. Or for defence... Anyone want to put a number on how many galley-Zerks we need? I'm pushing the micro plan forward to about t130 for some cities so starting to put unit builds in there...
Completed: RB Demogame - Gillette, PBEM46, Pitboss 13, Pitboss 18, Pitboss 30, Pitboss 31, Pitboss 38, Pitboss 42, Pitboss 46, Pitboss 52 (Pindicator's game), Pitboss 57
In progress: Rimworld
Turn 120
Just a quick update. In the SE we'll hook fur next turn, Settle D in three turns and I don't think we're going to flip the tile that says 26%...  In the NE We'll have three chops completing the forge in Halberd over the next few turns, we'll whip the forge in Jemmy and BOG produces a settler for H or I (or A or B, but they are some way away). Where do you want him to go? The tile that says 59% will belong to M3 again in a couple of turns  Out west: In The Stone whips a trading post and will produce a galley and trireme in the next 10 turns. Foil completes a barracks this turn, then I'll set it producing Zerks. Smooth can do the same after the settler, ideally we'll get 69 hammers into zerks in a few places before whipping lots out at once, to give Trolls as little reaction time as possible.  Army - We need to put a lot of effort into this if we're going to get from 1 axe to an invasion force in the next 20 tunrs...  Power - what unit did Tasunke just produce to close that gap?  Demos - even at 100% someone (Trolls?) is 30 ahead on GNP.  Questions for this turn - do we want barracks in our bigger production cities or 1 extra Zerk out of each? - Iron working for crossbows or HBR for HA's or construction for catapults next? I'd like to part-build HA's and then auto-upgrade them to knights...
Completed: RB Demogame - Gillette, PBEM46, Pitboss 13, Pitboss 18, Pitboss 30, Pitboss 31, Pitboss 38, Pitboss 42, Pitboss 46, Pitboss 52 (Pindicator's game), Pitboss 57
In progress: Rimworld |
