WW20: Legend of the Undercity

[Qgqqqqq]

Yes you're right (I had missed that) but he had been attacked earlier too, and its not just then that I meant - you also attach yourself to the lynch (without seeming to push it, later, and indeed this post has very little reasoning to it, as though you were hoping. someone els( e like lewwyn. Who'd already expressed suspicion) would take it and run with it (it if ironic that you accused him for lack of reasoning while applying little yourself)
Its. also interesting that you completely ignore the rest of my posts.

[Meiz]

Serdoa, views can change during the day and mine did after Tas's latest posts. I believed him to be more likely SK, but thought he could have also been scum (like it was). My ability works only for targets that are leading the vote, but I did ponder on saving it until later the game. I wasn't sure if I'd make until the end. Decided that even if I'm wrong and Tasunke is a villager, it's worth getting him out of the game asap. Especially if he keeps throwing unreasoned votes against me all game long. I probably did not think all the possible pro's and co's throughly, but went with the gut.

[Meiz]

And by "getting lynched in few hours" you must mean day and few hours.

[GaiusMarius]

Yes you're right (I had missed that) but he had been attacked earlier too, and its not just then that I meant - you also attach yourself to the lynch (without seeming to push it, later, and indeed this post has very little reasoning to it, as though you were hoping. someone els( e like lewwyn. Who'd already expressed suspicion) would take it and run with it (it if ironic that you accused him for lack of reasoning while applying little yourself)
Its. also interesting that you completely ignore the rest of my posts.

He'd been attacked earlier, but for his no lynch vote. So, yes. He was attacked before, but I brought up a different reason. The reason I didn't push it was because I wasn't particularly looking for a lynch; instead, I just wanted him to post his reasoning and added some pressure so that he'd feel compelled to do so (we all see how well that worked out... ) And I feel I provided my reasoning fairly clearly - flug posted 4 seemingly random votes with no explanation of why, and I thought that was a bit scummy, and asked him to provide his reasoning why. Finally, I'm not ignoring your other posts, I just don't have much to say in response to them.

[Ichabod]

Ichabod, what happened to your suspicion of Pindicator?

Nothing, but I have to vote for someone. I could vote Pindicator too.

[Qgqqqqq]

You didn't bring up a new reason, you just quoted a post and said you didn't like it.
You mentioned lack of reasoning (for a joke vote made early in day1), andanother post (all nice people...) that HAD ALREADY BEEN COMMENTED ON.t
In other words, your post brought up nothing new against him except that a post was scummy.
I could say that about half a dozen if yours, including 114, the one we are currently discussing.

[Ichabod]

Mass village points for Serdoa and Q, for attacking me before the results. Scum wouldn't do it.

Not for me, I didn't see your post day-vigging him before I had already voted for you.

And I still am suspicious of you, especially as I agree with others that it could indeed be a setup. Especially as it seems he was going down anyway, so your day-vigging now makes much sense for a wolf. It would simply be to late to be explainable if you waited longer. I think it is even now hard to understand why you would waste your day-vig-shot on a target that had a high probability of getting lynched TODAY if you are town. But waiting longer and you just couldn't do it anymore at all, not to a player that is in the lead to getting lynched with just a few hours on the clock.

Also, there was no reason to shoot him. As Q pointed out, you did believe him to be village just a few hours ago. Than he got much heat and you decided to shoot him because he could maybe be a SK - which we don't even know if one exists? A target that would get lynched anyway most likely? If he had somehow got rid of all the votes I would understand, but this? In the last game, MJW had a smoking gun against Tasunke because he clearly lied so the day would have otherwise be wasted - and even then I didn't agree fully with the decision. You didn't have anything like that at all.

No, tbh, I have a hard time believing that you did do that as a villager. IF you did it and are a villager, great shot Meiz, thanks for helping us , but as of now I can't understand how you would reach the conclusion to waste your shot. Therefore I will keep my vote on you. But I am very interested to hear your explanation why you did what you did. I am sure you DID think about the pros and cons of shooting, so tell us please. Maybe that helps me coming around to a different view on you.

(Better for all of you or do I still have too much tunnel-vision? ...)

Excelent post. To be fair, I really want to lynch Meiz now. But I don't think I have the guts to do it. It'll be so ugly if we are wrong... (and I didn't suspect Meiz before he used his ability, so, yeah...)

[GaiusMarius]

The "lack of reasoning" was for his most recent post, not his early Azza joke vote.

[novice]

You didn't bring up a new reason, you just quoted a post and said you didn't like it.
You mentioned lack of reasoning (for a joke vote made early in day1), andanother post (all nice people...) that HAD ALREADY BEEN COMMENTED ON.t
In other words, your post brought up nothing new against him except that a post was scummy.
I could say that about half a dozen if yours, including 114, the one we are currently discussing.

The "lack of reasoning" clearly refers to the lack of reasoning behind the four random suspects.

That being said, I find this:

BrickAstrley, Lewwyn, Novice and/or Pindicator are the enemies of the Empress's crown. Trust me, I know this kind, been once myself.

a bit scummy. I don't like the lack of reasoning, nor the "Maybe we all are nice guys..." quote. flug_auto, would you like to explain your suspicions?

That post was indeed the first one commenting on those votes. Flug's post was post 112, and this post by GaiusMarius was post 114.

[Ichabod]

Meiz