[spoilers] Commodore and Dtay are Sitting Bull of Inca, somehow.

[Zed-F]

I would not suggest outright gifting units. Selling them or trading them for fair value has precedent in this game, but we've already seen more than enough cheese with unit gifts, so best to be circumspect.

[Commodore]

I would not suggest outright gifting units. Selling them or trading them for fair value has precedent in this game, but we've already seen more than enough cheese with unit gifts, so best to be circumspect.

We have open borders with Gavagai and are at war with HAK, though. I doubt anyone would find it unkosher to zoom along his roads ourselves to cannon HAK's stack.

[Commodore]

Interesting times, people! The game's afoot. Donovan Zoi apparently also likes himself some buffer zone, and so razed our land-border city and captured...ugh. Captured an amazing choke point city that forks our entire inner sea. With his galleons (oh yeah by the way he's got Astronomy too). That's annoying, but I do like his generally defensive posture and it hastens the end of the war weariness problem we've been having.

#hegemonyproblems

We do have a cleared roadline towards India now with the latest capture, now known as Cloak. Two things: Lost our great general knight to take this at 98.6% odds, which is BULLSHIT. And also got an amazing infra haul.

Still mad about the GG loss.

Bleh. Anyhow, he's the core of Azteca, or as we like to call it now, East Inca.

Galley ho! Let's kill these last four cities.

Ruff definitely reacted to Donovan's war in a way we can appreciate; he whipped his entire empire, didn't move any galleons our way, and shifted to be able to hit India. This meets with the Commodore Stamp of Approval. A critical mass of cannon and muskets are now on the front, so if the ball does go up I'm massively more confident about our repulse. Caravels continue to be massed of course because apparently nobody else likes Chemistry.

We love your field, Mardoc.

I'm glad of Donovan's kill-stealing. The major threat to peace and serenity in Greater Inca is hippies; war weariness is starting to tip from "annoying" to "painful". Cascade Point will even start being unhappy at a mere size 23! That is clearly not acceptable. Ah, Cascade Point. Old Harry, did you know you were making another Ottawa of my heart when you made this beauty? It's like .87 on the Ottawa scale, needing only a couple metal pops and a fietoria to nearly match that great city. The Temple of Artemis is all Dtay, who said we'd probably appreciate it more than two and a half cannon...probably. Once we hit size 23 here we're going to burn off the excess granary food to pop a Great Scientist.

Whenever Astronomy does come it'll lose some commerce but an observatory would more than make up for it.

That Great Scientist from Cascade Point is planned golden age person number four, though...number three comes from the next most awesome city in the empire, Warhorse. This was a real coup to settle away from Retep, wasn't it? Anyway, it has an amazingly mixed GPPool but Spy/Prophet/Merchant will be 70% by the time it matures, so I'm content. After this caravel it'll toss out a 3-move galley to be canalled over to the Retepian sea, then we'll make ourselves someone great.

I love Moai stones.

[Mardoc]

We love your field, Mardoc.

Hmm? What's that got to do with me?

[Zed-F]

Re: doing your own cannoning in Gav's lands -- that would seem fine to me.

[Old Harry]

Ah, Cascade Point. Old Harry, did you know you were making another Ottawa of my heart when you made this beauty? It's like .87 on the Ottawa scale, needing only a couple metal pops and a fietoria to nearly match that great city. The Temple of Artemis is all Dtay, who said we'd probably appreciate it more than two and a half cannon...probably. Once we hit size 23 here we're going to burn off the excess granary food to pop a Great Scientist.

Whenever Astronomy does come it'll lose some commerce but an observatory would more than make up for it.

Someone made us quite a nice capital in '18... Got any shots of Ottawa from ~t200?

[spacetyrantxenu]

Someone made us quite a nice capital in '18... Got any shots of Ottawa from ~t200?

Pfft. Look at that garrison. Warriors? Are they going to fire themselves from the catapults? And wasting hammers to produce the holy men, it's an affront to the blood god!




Although I have to admit...you must have been doing something right since your capital was the best foreign trade route I had. I seriously doubt anyone was getting coins back from my city by that point of the game.

[/threadjack]

[Commodore]

Someone made us quite a nice capital in '18... Got any shots of Ottawa from ~t200?

Pfft. Look at that garrison. Warriors? Are they going to fire themselves from the catapults? And wasting hammers to produce the holy men, it's an affront to the blood god!




Although I have to admit...you must have been doing something right since your capital was the best foreign trade route I had. I seriously doubt anyone was getting coins back from my city by that point of the game.

[/threadjack]

It's never a threadjack to talk about Ottawa...and yes I do, Harry. And nothing in all of time will ever come close, here's Ottawa:

[GermanJoey]

For RBMod/RtR 2.X, I think Zoo's got you guys beat... I bet Alfie beat it out on max bpt during the Aztec last GA tho, cause of Fin.

[spacetyrantxenu]

nothing in all of time will ever come close

Ever is a long time.

I can't post my reply anywhere until people do more exploration in PB27, so remind me to post my picture in a few months.

Summary: T195 - 900 bpt, + 230 gpt @ max science slider. Pentagon is a 7 turn build without overflow chaining (because who does that in single player games?) Then again, SP games are reasonably measured on a completely different scale from MP games, since AI is much less competent than most of the people we play against around here. Still, hyperbole demands a challenge.

Edit: That's a good point about the mod version, who knows how much extra commerce/beakers I'm getting from RtR 3.0.0.4 vs 2.0.6.4. And Joey...that floodplains town...