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I don't know. At this point if Muriel is village then I got severely tunneled. I also felt antagonized and that legitimate arguments were being ignored. I was frustrated. I am still to a degree but I won't sink the village intentionally. I think anonymous makes it more difficult for me to accept when a play style is just a persons style and when it's a wolf play acting. If Muriel is zak then it all makes sense to me because I always suspect his play style. It's not an excuse just an explanation.
I freaked out, I left to calm myself and then I came back night 2. I was attempting to be more objective less emotional. Go ahead and reread if you don't believe me I think there is a clear difference.
Anyway, today seems obvious, but for the sake of principle:
(July 25th, 2013, 03:59)Rob The Filch Wrote: I might even be willing to lynch Edith over Muriel as crazy as that might be.
By this point I was actually starting to see Edith as more suspicious than Muriel.
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I don't have a definite read on who Muriel is but I doubt it's Zak.
As for talking about Rob's past history, etc. - there are some players here where I'm so certain of their identity that I just take it for granted without thinking about it. Hence why that "Serdoa" slipped in there just a few posts ago, and why I'm comfortable talking about Rob's past history. (It didn't actually occur to me when I wrote it that it was predicated on guessing his identity.)
I don't mean to undermine the "spirit" of the game or anything like that, I just can't help it.
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(July 26th, 2013, 16:46)Young Will Wrote: widow edith
more come come tonight
I would be interested to hear what you think. I also believe I know what happened between you and Bert. Do you reckon there is any reason to not explain it to everyone?
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I think Rob is village. He was there with me against Muriel at first, but I do not blame him for not changing because he could not know what I then knew. Also, like Muriel says, why would scum be upset when they are doing so well?
I have been reading Kate posts, but there is not much. Only votes for Know-Nothing Jon and Muriel.
Now I am not sure what to think of Know-Nothing. He says he had already caught on to me and was trying to protect me last night? Well, good job it worked. So this looks very good for Know-Nothing now. Well, Muriel shows me I have been wrong before.
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(July 27th, 2013, 04:46)Sir Percival Wrote: (July 27th, 2013, 03:59)Agnes The Orphan Wrote: @Percival, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts anyway - its hardly going to distract from THIS lynch () and it could generate some useful discussion in a rather stagnant thread.
Quick phone post case, Half Nose Harry has been #2. his posts are predominately questions, very easy for scum to make because don't need to take a position
It seems funny that after being poked by several people for not expressing thoughts on things beyond Muriel, when you finally do choose to point a finger all you can summon up is just to accuse me of roughly the same thing. I daresay I've taken more positions than you have.
(July 27th, 2013, 01:39)Sir Percival Wrote: (July 26th, 2013, 18:25)Half-Nose Harry Wrote: I just did a read through of all of Sir Percival's posts. There is practically nothing there other then repeatedly calling for Muriel's lynch, but he doesn't really go into any reasons. In the beginning he was basing it on the meta speculation issue at the start of Day 1, then he shifts to just either saying "she's scum", or not even that's she's scum, just that she's a "toxic influence" or "cancer". It's just alot of "she's scummy because she's scummy" circular reasoning, or things such as:
(July 23rd, 2013, 08:09)Sir Percival Wrote: i will savor the day i get to chop off ur head, wolfy the slow WHY is she scummy? With as much as she has posted surely some specific things have popped out to you. Also, even better, who do you feel is suspicious other than Muriel? The last post I noted you giving much for reads on other people was this:
(July 23rd, 2013, 09:25)Sir Percival Wrote: other player i read thru was halfnose harry (mustnt be a good fighter, shouldve taken lessons from the best, the best being me, sir percy, yeaaaaahhhh)
thought it odd that most posts were question. not much putting self out there.
also reread tiny dick posts, similar read to young will. more contribution desired but null tell for now
What have you thought of me since? Or Short Richard? Or anyone else? It seems to me like you're happy having somewhere convenient to park your vote and occasionally chime in to reaffirm your belief in her wolfiness for no particular reason and not having to try to analyze anything else. Sir Percival please share your thoughts with us.
i under belief i found scum so i push for lynch of that scum. pushing other targets against strong defender leaves that lynch vulnerable to manipulation. i believe i been pretty clear on what aspects of muriel play i havent liked, nothing has changed with that. depending on saul information being true, i have other targets who i will go after in future. i need not share all thoughts in thread right now, as i do not believe i likely to be night kill.
kate the waif I'm coming to agree quite strongly with the bolded part.
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(July 27th, 2013, 06:37)Rob The Filch Wrote: I was attempting to be more objective less emotional. Go ahead and reread if you don't believe me I think there is a clear difference.
Yeah clearly shown. You started with talking how I ignored multiple posts of you:. When I went through your posts to prove that there was nothing to ignore. you started to freak out. First by slandering with another lie:
(July 25th, 2013, 03:37)Rob The Filch Wrote: Edith I find it hilarious that you decide to look through my posts trying to paint me scum without saying that? Let me save you the trouble. All of my posts are focused on Muriel because I'm 100% convinced she's scum. So far I haven't seen anyone else lynch a wolf.
But what gets me is that All of a sudden, you're going to start trying to go through my posts. You haven't done this to anyone else in the game and this is the first time you haven't just sat on the side. Congratulations it only took someone calling you out to actively try to participate. Your attitude is a 180. Scared?
I have sat on the side? Really? I have been making posts about various people answered questions explained my reasoning but for you I have sat on the side? You that has nothing done but screaming Murie, Muriel and throw a fit once you got suspected say I have sat on the sidelines? Yeah I'm sure that' is just another misperception and not a thorough lie.
And closing with a nice drama-post
(July 25th, 2013, 04:53)Rob The Filch Wrote: Believe what you want. I asked brick to replace me if there were any unspoiled people signed up as replacements. If the aren't I will continue.
I don't think I will be playing for a while in future games. Not trying to evoke a reaction or sympathy or anything I'm just
telling you how it is.
Yeah very believable. I like how you included the "if there aren't unspoiled people I will continue" How magnanimous of you.
I just have to look at the reaction and you got exactly what you wanted. Well played, well played indeed.
BTW since I have shown that I have not ignored multiple posts of you. What is your reason you think I'm scum?
@Saul: If his anger were real then yes but I doubt that. Read through what transpired and tell me his frustrations and outburst are in anyway warranted. They are nothing but a trick to get village-status. Look at the difference between Scarlet John and him.
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Yeah, I will look at it. But I do not see it that way before. Going to take a mini-holiday but should still be time for reading.
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Quote:@Agnes
Any reason to bold the parts you did in the quote from Jon?
Because they weren't appropriate for the game (they were based on a history of who people actually are, which isn't part of this game).
How many times must I discharge my blunderbuss?
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Well, it's not as simple as all that, Agnes. I practically know who some of the posters here are, because their style is so distinctive. I cannot unknow that, and thus I cannot evaluate them without being influenced by their history. So if you want me to be honest when I describe my thought processes, I have to bring up past history.
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Btw. Fat Rose, it is fairly common on other forums to replace players also at later stages in the game. And people were telling Scarlet John that he should have asked to be replaced, so it's kind of hypocritical to say that Rob's request could not be genuine.
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