RBPB4 Lurker Thread

[Cyneheard]

Adlain needs to learn how to leverage slavery; we've got the same old "don't use my food resources when I'm at the happy cap" problem, when he should be whipping. He's got a freaking CITIZEN being worked instead of a 5/1 pigs. That lighthouse should definitely be whipped, and then he can regrow, and spit out more workers and settlers if he's at the happy cap and doesn't want to whip more.

[Nicolae Carpathia]

It's a common mistake made by alot of newer players. There's something remarkably uncomfortable about that face. At some point, you begin to understand that during the single-digit city sizes phase of the game, every +food point is worth 1.3-2.5 hammers. If anything, I still don't whip enough (though it's often because I screw up my city management and end up having too many hammers in the box so that I can only 1-pop whip ).

Edit: Would it be kosher to give Adlain this kind of advice on city management? Basic things like, build a granary, work food specials, grassland cottages and grassland mines, and use 2-4 pop whips to build cheap early-game infrastructure like workers, lighthouses, libraries, forges and markets. And especially whip to get rid of non-lighthouse coasts and specialists that will never produce a GP.

Edit 2: Probably not . SM and Rego and Locke are going to eat him alive.

[Gold Ergo Sum]

Reading Adlain's update made me sad honestly.

The first three cities aren't working a 6-food pig, 5/1/0 pig, 5/1/0 deer, and in the last city, he has improved two tiles at at the city for size 2, but ignored the WET CORN!

I mean, I am probably in the bottom 50% of players on RB in skill, but that just makes me feel bad for him, because he is a real nice guy.

Someone go dig that guy up a non-spoiled DL to help him out. Anybody know someone who we can draft in for the job?

[Gold Ergo Sum]

Anybody know if that power graph Luddite posted shows the attacks from the prior turn?

If not, between that last turn, and the slaughter of Nu Lupu, I am guessing Mackoti literally has no army left.

[scooter]

Oh wow. Adlain has serious city management problems in every single city. Yikes. I agree with those who just now said that it's a common problem for new players. It's a hard concept to grasp that it's ok to run into unhappiness and then whip down. Adlain needs to spend some time reading Sullla's PB2 thread and some of the city management principles that are covered there in great detail. I kind of wish we could just give him some advice here... I'd do it if it was a PBEM, but it's a PB and people seem to be a bit more touchy about this kind of thing in a PB.

[SevenSpirits]

Oh wow. Adlain has serious city management problems in every single city. Yikes. I agree with those who just now said that it's a common problem for new players. It's a hard concept to grasp that it's ok to run into unhappiness and then whip down. Adlain needs to spend some time reading Sullla's PB2 thread and some of the city management principles that are covered there in great detail. I kind of wish we could just give him some advice here... I'd do it if it was a PBEM, but it's a PB and people seem to be a bit more touchy about this kind of thing in a PB.

So does anyone actually object to telling him? I'd think the players would appreciate the slightly-better level of play from the competition, to be honest.

It doesn't need to be complicated, just tell him that the default governor would be better than what he is doing.

[Bobchillingworth]

Maybe phrase it a little more tactfully, though

[Gold Ergo Sum]

I suspect everyone but Rego, SM and Locke would definitely agree.

I personally don't have a problem with it, but considering everyone would object if someone helped out one of the leaders that way, I am not sure the double standard is justifiable.

I would still just prefer if we could somehow find him an experienced, unspoiled DL to help him.

EDIT: Or if someone could come up with some good CFC articles or informational reading for him and let him come to his own conclusions, that might work too.

[SevenSpirits]

Haha yeah, although the default governor is actually pretty darn good, so that really should not be taken as an insult.

[chaunceymo]

Anybody know if that power graph Luddite posted shows the attacks from the prior turn?

If not, between that last turn, and the slaughter of Nu Lupu, I am guessing Mackoti literally has no army left.

I believe that was pre-slaughter, which means Mackoti could well be toast. Very roller coastery war. Assuming luddite can finish mackoti in <= 20 turns and recover his economy quickly (both huge maybes, I know), he'll actually be in pretty solid shape. Huge tracts of land with very favorable defensive geography and a neighbor to the east that's probably going to get dogpiled before turn 200.